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Subject:    Fwd: RE: FWD: A question about konqueror
From:       David Faure <david () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2001-05-25 9:41:09
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Carsten, what's the status of the tabbed sidebar ?

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Subject: RE: FWD: A question about konqueror
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 04:54:33 -0500
From: Jonathan Lee <jel846s@smsu.edu>
To: David Faure <david@mandrakesoft.com>


>The first is very easy: a hidden file in the directory itself. This way it
>remains associated with the directory if it gets copied, or moved, or 
renamed. >This can either be a field of the .directory file (after encoding 
the \n >characters... hmm, some trickery needed here),or simply a new file, 
say >.dirnotes or whatever Nautilus use (why not choose the same, for 
compatibility).

I agree that this would be the most practicle approach and very scalable to 
new features being added.

>The second is open to suggestions. A plugin could indeed be a way: that 
means, a >menu item that triggers some code in a separate library, to -for 
instance- pop >up a dialog and ask for the notes to be entered. But another 
way is to relate >this to the 3rd point (visualizing) by simply making the 
notes editable (so, >seeing and editing can be done at the same place).

Usability is of utmost importance and would probably lead towards the second - 
much like Nautilus, the editing and reading would be done both in the side 
bar.  This requires the most work, and will probably cause frustrations, but 
will pay of in the long run in ease of use.  With the Nautilus source as an 
example it should be attainable.

>but currently Konqueror's sidebar can't play that role, as long as it's a 
simple >tree view. There are plans to make it something with tabs, where some 
tabs could >host a tree view, but other tabs could for instance host the notes 
for a >directory [say, the one in the current view]. But that's not done yet, 
not sure >what the current status is....

This is right where I'm going with this idea, including adding a search tab 
(hopefully to do both local and web searches) amongst others.  Do you know who 
was spearheading this idea?  I'd like a status update from them.  My friends 
and I talking about doing this would prefer that a _core_ Konqueror developer 
were to implement the extension of the side bar to insure that is is _sane_ 
and non-conflicting with the rest of the program, while we work on an 
assortment of tabs.  Failing this I guess we could do it all, but I wouldn't 
hold breath over its completion, we won't be doing anything to Konqueror this 
invasive until we've poured over the source enough to be fairly sure we're not 
going to break a lot in the process.

>Well, just a few ideas to get the idea going, but I don't have time for
>developing on Konqueror anymore. But I can provide more precise pointers into
>the code if you feel like doing some of this !

Thanks we'll probably ask at some point before we're done with this.

>
>David.
>
>> ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
>> Subject: A question about konqueror
>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:38:24 -0500
>> From: Jonathan Lee <jel846s@smsu.edu>
>> To: neundorf@kde.org
>>
>>
>> Alex,
>>
>> I found your name on the Konqueror developers page and wanted to run an 
idea
>> past you.  My name is Jonathan Lee, and I am a secretary for a Linux Users
>> Group in Missouri (USA).  Our mission as a LUG is to advocate Linux on the
>> desktop to individuals and corporations.  To do this we have chosen KDE as
>>  our desktop, and have found it met with great success.  Konqueror is
>>  especially well liked and I want to thank you personally for your
>>  contributions on this exceptional project.  The developers list has you
>>  listed as the "List Views" maintainer and developer.  Nautilus, recently
>>  released by the ill-fated Eazel, included a Notes tab and feature in the
>>  list view for writing notes about the files in a directory or where other
>>  misc. data might be found.  This is an amazing feature especially amongst
>>  those working with people new to Linux.  I want to inquire if that could 
be
>>  realistically built into Konqueror.  If so, who would we contact about 
doing
>>  so.  We would be very interested in assisting in the development process,
>>  from actual code writing, testing, bug reporting, and otherwise.  I
>>  personally feel this could further KDE and its file manager in the eyes of
>>  the industry and especially the client side user.  Thank you so much for
>>  your time, I'm sorry to have written in this unsolicited manner.  I look
>>  forward to hearing from you, and hope this idea can flourish.
>>
>> Jonathan Lee
>>
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>>
>>
>
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>David FAURE, david@mandrakesoft.com, faure@kde.org
>http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/
>KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today



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David FAURE, david@mandrakesoft.com, faure@kde.org
http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/
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