From kfm-devel Wed Mar 31 13:00:32 1999 From: Simon Hausmann Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:00:32 +0000 To: kfm-devel Subject: Re: mail-folder + mail-messages in konqy X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kfm-devel&m=92386547425848 On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Sven Radej wrote: > On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Simon Hausmann wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I just read Waldo's nice DESIGN document once again and I'm thinking about > >integrating mail-"browsing" into Konqueror. > >>>From KMail's side it shouldn't be very hard to do, but from Konqueror's > >side (and from the users point of view) I have no real clue how we can do > >it. And that's why I'm asking for opinions/suggestions/comments about > >the following points: > > > >1) How should the user "tell" Konqy: "Hey, I want to view mails." ? > > By browsing into it's mail directory and clicking on a mail folder > > file? Hm, in somehow I don't like this idea. > But why not? Mail folder can have nice icon. In case of mailbox-style folder > this would be enough. Clickingo on Inbox or something should be job for > mail-application. For MH or other mail-styles, Mail/ directory could have some > remark in .directory which would tell konqueror to call mail-application. Yes, I agree here, but OTOH I don't want to fire up another iconview, browse into my home directory, search the Mail folder icon, just in order to read my email inside Konqy :-) Instead I for example would rather do it like this: I have two additional icons in Konqy's toolbar (or somehwere else) , one button for "check-new-mail" and the second for "fire-up-my-mail-reader" (or course the plugin-application should decide about this buttons) . Now if I want to compose a message or just reply to another one the real application shows up. OTOH this sound _veryveryvery_ much like KBiff, docked into the kpanel and not like a browser, or? So do we really want to "browse" mail messages? And if yes, how? > > By extending Konqueror's menus/toolbar if a mail browsing plugin is > > available? Perhaps go the netscape way and add something like the mail > > button in the communicator? > > > >2) How should an email view look like and how should it be selected? > This is job for mail-application. Or maybe a special mail-viewer. > > > Idea: For plain messages it's just a htmlized reader view (like in > > KMail), for folders it's a combination of a tablistbox containing the > > headers of all messages plus a reader widget (all being part of one > > single view) . And perhaps a third, kmail-all-in-one view? > > But then the problem remains: How do we select one of those view modes? > > How does the user tell: "Hey, I want to view one message", "Give me > > all msg's in that folder" or "Ah, I want to see all my mail stuff" ? > > > >3) Citing Waldo: "I think we should keep Konqueror a "browser": You can > > browse with it, and look at things. But when you want to _DO_ things, > > you will need a full-fledged application." > > Do we want to break this rule in case of an email viewer and make the > > email view a Real(tm) thing, which in somehow makes sense in case of > > mail-msgs/news-articles. > > I wouldn't break this rule. Otherwise we won't need window manager or anything: > "just start X and maximized konqueror, everything is in there..." Oh, you must have missed it, but this is the true intention of the project: Replace KDE, X and the whole Operating System ;-))) Greetings, Simon