From kfm-devel  Mon Jun 17 14:12:31 2013
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lien_G=E2teau?= <agateau () kde ! org>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:12:31 +0000
To: kfm-devel
Subject: Re: Confirmation for deletion of files in Dolphin settings also affects Gwenview
Message-Id: <4105729.zUVjCMHL0f () trinity>
X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kfm-devel&m=137147837429378

On Friday 14 June 2013 18:38:18 you wrote:
> > > (b) Restore the possibility to configure the confirmations in
> > > Gwenview's settings dialog.
> >=20
> > My memory may be tricking me, but I don't it has ever been possible=
 to
> > configure confirmation of file operations in Gwenview.
>=20
> It was possible in gwenview in kde 3, see screenshot from gwenview 1.=
42
> running in a VM with 3.11 trinity here http://postimg.org/image/4qpwy=
u0sr/

Oh right. I thought you were referring to some early KDE4 version. Inde=
ed KDE3=20
version of Gwenview had these options.

> > I would personally
> > prefer a way to split the settings so that they are not shared anym=
ore. I
> > believe this is what users expect.
>=20
> I disagree here, let me explain why:
>=20
> The two confirmation options mentioned by Frank effect file operation=
s in
> Gwenview, Konqueror, Dolphin, Kmail(!) and in many kde applications v=
ia the
> File dialog.

Just like Frank, I was not aware those settings were used by so many=20=

applications. Thanks for pointing it out.
>=20
> Imagine you have a separate option in gwenview, but this option is di=
fferent
> in the file dialog (using the global confirmation setting) launched f=
rom
> Gwenview via Load/Save from the File menu. Would our users really exp=
ect
> that? I seriously doubt it.
>=20
> Furthermore these are basic file management options used widely in kd=
e apps
> as mentioned above, so I think our users expect them to be global set=
tings.
>=20
> And if a user in kde4 somehow learned / recognized by experience that=
 these
> confirmation options are global this might lead to data loss just the=
 other
> way round.
>=20
> Franks solution with a warning in Dolphin's/Konqueror's settings dial=
og
> seems to be only a short term solution.
>=20
> A global option should be changeable only in our general control util=
ity in
> systemsettings or in a kcm dialog outside the application window. Tha=
t would
> make automatically clear, that the user is changing a global option, =
no
> warning needed.
>=20
> Digging around for similar problems (changing options in an applicati=
on
> settings dialog, which are global, but this might probably be not alw=
ays
> that obvious for users) I found a way rekonq handles such an issue
> regarding proxy settings, which could be adapted and used here like:
>=20
> Show the current status of these global confirmation options in
> Dolphins/Konquerors settings dialog, but don't allow to edit them dir=
ectly.
> Instead provide a button labeled "Change Option" or similar which ope=
ns a
> separate kcm dialog which is also available in the systemsettings.

This makes sense to me and would indeed solve the problem. This can't h=
appen=20
for 4.11, though. Who is going to implement this KCM for 4.12?

Aur=E9lien