From kfm-devel Sat Dec 08 18:54:57 2012 From: Dawit A Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 18:54:57 +0000 To: kfm-devel Subject: Re: Springer web pages disallow Konqueror web browser Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kfm-devel&m=135499295600583 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--e89a8fb1fd7eb69ae404d05be021" --e89a8fb1fd7eb69ae404d05be021 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am always baffled why kwebkitpart never seems to work correctly for a lot of websites on some distributions, but not others. For example, the link you supplied works perfectly well on my ArchLinux box with QtWebKit 2.2. Moreover, WebKit is a lot faster for me than the default khtml engine. I wish I could identify the source for these discrepancies on different distros. The crashes are issues in QtWebKit itself. More specifically when the last stable branched off from the main webkit tree. The current QtWebkit 2.3 branch [1] which likely will never see a stable release is actually much better option for the distros to track. Unfortunately, most will never do that because they want officially released packages only, which in this day and age is meaningless for browser engines. Oh well... [1] http://blogs.kde.org/2012/11/14/introducing-qtwebkit-23 On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Oliver Kullmann w= rote: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 10:35:42AM +0100, David Faure wrote: > > On Thursday 25 October 2012 03:11:32 G=C3=A9rard Talbot wrote: > > > I think it's time to switch to another browser now otherwise to anoth= er > > > rendering engine if you still want to use Konqueror as a web browser. > > > > Yeah, you're mixing KHTML and konqueror a bit. > > > > If you install kwebkitpart, konqueror will now use that instead of KHTM= L > (and > > it's configurable in the konq config dialog). > > > > So Oliver can keep benefiting from Konqueror's great configurability > (e.g. the > > UserAgent string, etc.), while using a better (for most use cases) > rendering > > engine. > > > > I'm using Suse 12.2, and there Konqueror has "WebKit" as the default > engine. So the web-browsing experience isn't too bad: it's a bit slow, > and some crashes, and some pages aren't shown at all, for example > http://ad-sinistram.blogspot.co.uk/ > but fortunately we have the nice functionality of "open in another > browser" (I wish other broswers had this as well), and altogether it's > alright. > > Oliver > > > --e89a8fb1fd7eb69ae404d05be021 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am always baffled why kwebkitpart never seems to work correctly f= or a lot of websites on some distributions, but not others. For example, th= e link you supplied works perfectly well on my ArchLinux box with Q= tWebKit 2.2. Moreover,=C2=A0WebKit is a lot faster for me than the = default khtml engine.=C2=A0I wish I could identify the source for t= hese discrepancies on different distros.=C2=A0

The crashes are issues in QtWebKit itself. More specifically when = the last stable branched off from the main webkit tree. The current QtWebki= t 2.3 branch [1] which likely will never see a stable release is actually m= uch better option for the distros to track. Unfortunately, most will never = do that because they want officially released packages only, which in this = day and age is meaningless for browser engines.=C2=A0Oh well...

[1]=C2=A0http://blogs.kde.org/2012/11/14/introducing-qtw= ebkit-23


On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Oliver Kullmann <= O.Kullmann@sw= ansea.ac.uk> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 10= :35:42AM +0100, David Faure wrote:
> On Thursday 25 October 2012 03:11:32 G=C3=A9rard Talbot wrote:
> > I think it's time to switch to another browser now otherwise = to another
> > rendering engine if you still want to use Konqueror as a web brow= ser.
>
> Yeah, you're mixing KHTML and konqueror a bit.
>
> If you install kwebkitpart, konqueror will now use that instead of KHT= ML (and
> it's configurable in the konq config dialog).
>
> So Oliver can keep benefiting from Konqueror's great configurabili= ty (e.g. the
> UserAgent string, etc.), while using a better (for most use cases) ren= dering
> engine.
>

I'm using Suse 12.2, and there Konqueror has "WebKit" a= s the default
engine. So the web-browsing experience isn't too bad: it's a bit sl= ow,
and some crashes, and some pages aren't shown at all, for example
http://ad= -sinistram.blogspot.co.uk/
but fortunately we have the nice functionality of "open in another
browser" (I wish other broswers had this as well), and altogether it&#= 39;s alright.

Oliver



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