On Friday 11 December 2009, Frank Reininghaus wrote: > Hi David, hi everyone, > > 2009/12/9 David Faure: > > On Wednesday 25 November 2009, Frank Reininghaus wrote: > >> it seems that tab moving in Konqueror (and any other app that uses the > >> traditional middle-click tab moving) is broken at the moment: > >> > >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214646 > >> > >> Regardless of this bug (which should of course be fixed before 4.4.0) > >> I'm wondering if it makes sense to use Qt's tab moving with the left > >> mouse button in Konqueror instead. > >> [...] > >> The disadvantage would be that drag&drop of the tab url would not work > >> any more, but I would guess that this feature is used a lot less than > >> tab moving? > > > > I guess that makes sense, yes. More "behaviour compatible" with other > > browsers, and indeed one can use "duplicate tab" instead of DND (which > > also duplicates the current url into another tab, but without > > back/forward history). > > OK, how shall we proceed? I can see 3 options: > > 1. Make the change now (it's actually a bug fix because tab moving is > broken at the moment). > > 2. Make the change in KDE 4.5. > > 3. Get further feedback (maybe from usability people) before a decision is > made. After discussions on IRC with other people, it turns out that I forgot a major use case of DND: DND (of a tab's URL) into other apps. This gets broken if LMB moves tabs, right? Ideally we would start a url dnd when moving the mouse out of the window, but that seems awfully complex at first sight, with most of the logic inside Qt. Also, for old-time konqueror users, it would be good if MMB for moving tabs would still work, in addition to LMB. So, AFAICS, if you make the change now, we have 1 bug fixed (tabs can be moved) and 2 regressions (no more DND, no more MMB moving), right? In that case, would it be feasible to just fix the MMB moving? Ah, the bug says that's in Michael Jansen's hands? > David, what do you think? If we go for 1., we should maybe do it > before Beta 2 is tagged. Sorry, seems I don't read this mailing-list often enough :/ -- David Faure, faure@kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr Sponsored by Nokia to work on KDE, incl. Konqueror (http://www.konqueror.org).