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List:       kfm-devel
Subject:    Re: Has khtml's future been decided?
From:       George Staikos <staikos () kde ! org>
Date:       2007-02-17 5:50:47
Message-ID: B4462926-687D-4BDD-9B54-CD9089B3D18F () kde ! org
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On 16-Feb-07, at 11:13 PM, Germain Garand wrote:

> Le Jeudi 15 Février 2007 11:56, Lex Hider a écrit :
>> My question is whether future efforts would still be best served  
>> in khtml
>> bug triage? It seems like it would be a little futile to pour  
>> hours into
>> khtml triage, if unity has already been decided to be the future  
>> course (or
>> at least seems to be the most likely route KDE will be taking.)
>
> There is no such decision, because there is no such thing as a  
> happy-happy KDE
> team working hand in hand with Apple on a common html engine.

    There can be, but not as long as we are not considered equals,  
treated like equals, encouraged to collaborate (vs -discouraged-),  
and as long as our development model (very large, distributed,  
voluntary) is not given consideration, it's not going to happen.

> There was at some point a plan to setup a neutral ground for Apple,  
> KDE and
> other corporations to work on an equal foot. That proposal was  
> completely
> dismissed : Apple is not interested.

    Yes, after wasting an enormous amount of my own personal time and  
money on this, unfortunately nothing ever came of it.  I have to  
admit I had much higher hopes that we could work out a more suitable  
collaboration and development model.  While it's true that the khtml 
+webkit community can be much larger than Apple or KDE alone (or  
combined), the fact remains that we (KDE, and later Apple) designed  
it, invented it and wrote almost all of it.  It now feels like Apple  
considers KDE to be marginalized or insignificant.

     Terribly disappointing.  I still like to be positive and try to  
make this work somehow, but I fully understand your frustrations.  I  
just wish more people were helping me try to make something positive  
and constructive out of this.

--
George Staikos
KDE Developer				http://www.kde.org/
Staikos Computing Services Inc.		http://www.staikos.net/




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