Hello, I just subscribed after reading the interesting thread regarding the url navigator /location bar in Dolphin. I downloaded Dolphin and tried it, it looks promising as a filemanager to me. Regarding the location bar issue, and how URLs should be presented and navigation take place: I see value in both approaches. I would not like only buttons, but they have definite advantages. So I thought - why not have both, at the same time? One in each state (probably without toggle button) For drag and drop the buttons are definitely useful, and with some kind of drop-down menu presenting subdirectories for each button in the path, as I think was mentioned, it can be very convenient. On the other hand, a text field is much better for copy-and-paste and for keyboard editing Attached is my first patch ever, after hacking KDE only my second evening, and I am a C++ novice. It adds an extra URLNavigator, and connects them so they show the same path. The patch is just to illustrate the idea. To me it feels really good, and I already have many ideas how a dual location bar could be used - I think an always-present dual location bar as an extra panel at the bottom of my screen could find many uses. For what it is worth I also found Dolphin well documented and clean, easier for me than kdelibs (from what I saw yesterday, which was my first evening in KDE source-land). And I am surprised I could add value so easily :-) Thanks, Claes #diff dolphin-0.7.0/src/dolphinview.cpp ../dolphin-0.7.0/src/dolphinview.cpp 77a78,93 > m_urlNavigator->setURLEditable(false); > > m_urlNavigator2 = new URLNavigator(url, this); > connect(m_urlNavigator2, SIGNAL(urlChanged(const KURL&)), > this, SLOT(slotURLChanged(const KURL&))); > connect(m_urlNavigator2, SIGNAL(urlChanged(const KURL&)), > &dolphin, SLOT(slotURLChanged(const KURL&))); > connect(m_urlNavigator2, SIGNAL(historyChanged()), > &dolphin, SLOT(slotHistoryChanged())); > m_urlNavigator2->setURLEditable(true); > > connect(m_urlNavigator, SIGNAL(urlChanged(const KURL&)), > m_urlNavigator2, SLOT(slotURLActivated(const KURL&))); > connect(m_urlNavigator2, SIGNAL(urlChanged(const KURL&)), > m_urlNavigator, SLOT(slotURLActivated(const KURL&))); > 101a118 > m_topLayout->addWidget(m_urlNavigator2); 115a133 > m_urlNavigator2->setURL(url); 442a461 > m_urlNavigator2->goBack(); 447a467 > m_urlNavigator2->goForward(); 452a473 > m_urlNavigator2->goUp(); 457a479 > m_urlNavigator2->goHome(); 462c484 < m_urlNavigator->setURLEditable(editable); --- > //m_urlNavigator->setURLEditable(editable); 467c489,490 < m_urlNavigator->editURL(); --- > //m_urlNavigator->editURL(); > //m_urlNavigator2->editURL(); #diff dolphin-0.7.0/src/dolphinview.h ../dolphin-0.7.0/src/dolphinview.h 384a385 > URLNavigator* m_urlNavigator2;