This is a jolly interesting discussion, but we have already had quite an
extensive discussion of konqueror delete, as a result of which I wrote
the patch as it currently is! My ideal would be probably to just always
use trash and then have an intelligent trash, but a lot of people did
want to have the different options. So I kept them in. The difference I
am talking about is not a difference in functionality, just a difference
in the way we explain it to the user.

As for "making it too complicated" - I think removing 3 delete options
from the RMB and replacing them with one configurable option is a big
gain in simplicity! But try out the patch and see if you think it is
well explained in the kcontrol dialog.

Dave


On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 22:39, Koos Vriezen wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Tim Jansen wrote:
> 
> > There are two reasons why people want to delete (instead of move to trash):
> > 1. because they want to conserve disk space
> > 2. because they want that nobody is able to view that file
> >
> > (1) is also somewhat triggered by human instincts. Even when there are
> > gigaytes of free disk space people still want to have as much as possible. A
> > similar effect can be seen in older MacOS versions: originally the trash icon
> > was always the same. Later somebody had the idea that the trash icon should
> > show it when there was something in the trash. The result was that people
> > started emptying the trash after deleting, because it is a good idea to empty
> > your trash bin early & often. In general usability guys seem to regard that
> > change in MacOS as a bad thing BTW...
> > However, (1) could also be solved by a intelligent mechanism to clean up the
> > trash when the disk space is low (but automatically, not with annoying
> > dialogs like in windows - if something is in trash there should not be any
> > guarantes thatthe file may stay there).
> 
> Just adding my 1.5 cents as a kfm user.
> I wouldn't mind kfm trashing a file if I delete it if it's on the same
> partition as my home dir. but if I delete eg an iso image on another
> partition, I would be quite annoyed and probably not going to use it. Not
> to mention remote disks.
> Iirc, ms has a trash on each partion (can't be done with linux) and
> default not to trash for remote files. Also toggling this with shift del
> is a nice feature.
> 
> Koos