Hi, There have been numerous bug reports submitted to the kde bugs database from users that are experiencing crashing when konqueror (from kde 3.0 and up) is browsing hidden directories in file management mode. The reports keep getting closed because the developers cannot reproduce the problem and is assumed fixed. I'm currently using kde 3.1.0 from debian's unstable archives and unfortunately I still experience konq crashing with hidden directories. The good news is that I believe I've found a way to reproduce the problem so hopefully somebody on this list can figure out what's wrong. First, open up the home directory in konq (kfmclient openProfile filemanagement) and set up a few things: - make sure the navigation panel is visible and the home directory tab is selected (I'm assuming your home directory has hidden directories like .kde). - make sure "Show Hidden Files" and "Link View" are checked, and "View Properties Saved in Directory" is unchecked. - if the home directory contains a .directory file, delete it. - close the konq window to save the settings. Now lets try to crash konq ;) 1.) Open konq again (kfmclient openProfile filemanagement). The sidebar tree view should only be listing all regular directories in the home directory but the file view will also show all the hidden files and directories. 2.) Click on the .kde directory. Then click on share and browse around. Everything works as expected except the sidebar tree view never changes. 3.) Click back until you are in the home directory again. 4.) Uncheck "Show Hidden Files". 5.) Check "View Properties Saved in Directory" 6.) Check "Show Hidden Files" again. There should now be a .directory file in the home directory. If you open it up it should contain ShowDotFiles=true under the [URL properties] section. 7.) Uncheck "View Properties Saved in Directory" again and close konq to save the settings. 8.) Open konq again. This time the sidebar tree view _does_ show all the hidden directories in addition to the regular ones. 9-1.) Try to expand a hidden dir in the tree view by clicking on [+]. Konq crashes. 9-2.) Go back to step 8.) and click on .kde in the file view, then click on the directory share. Konq crashes again. 9-3.) Go back to step 8.) and try to expand a _regular_ directory in the tree view that doesn't contain a .directory file with ShowDotFiles=true. All of the hidden directories in the tree view disappear. Browsing through hidden dirs in the file view will work again. 9-4.) Go back to step 8.) and close the navigation panel. Browse more than one level deep into a hidden directory in the file view. Everything will work fine until you open the navigation panel again and konq will crash. It seems to me that konq crashes because the sidebar tree view is not capable of expanding a hidden directory, in fact it will only show them if the directory contains a .directory file with ShowDotFiles=true. Each time konq crashes a dialog pops up but dissappears too fast to read. My .xsession-errors has tons of the following assert lines: ASSERT: "fileItem->isDir()" in ../../../../../konqueror/sidebar/trees/dirtree_module/dirtree_module.cpp (310) ASSERT: "item" in ../../../../../konqueror/sidebar/trees/dirtree_module/dirtree_module.cpp (316) Can anybody confirm the above behavior? I suspect it could be related to several similar bug reports and hope it can get fixed in time for the next release. I know this is getting long but for an example of some more odd sidebar behavior keep reading. 1.) Set up konq so it is in the same state as described in the beginning of this message (start in home dir, view hidden files, delete .directory etc.) 2.) Create a new directory in the home directory, I'll call it TESTDIR. 3.) Create a new text file called .directory in TESTDIR. Edit the file so it contains the following: [URL properties] ShowDotFiles=true 4.) Create a new hidden directory in TESTDIR, I'll call it .HIDDENDIR. 5.) Close konq to save the settings and then open it again. 6.) There should be no hidden directories shown in the sidebar tree view now. Double click on TESTDIR in the sidebar to expand it. The sidebar now shows all hidden dirs, including .HIDDENDIR. 7.) Now try double clicking on a regular directory in the sidebar. All the hidden dirs disappear but TESTDIR now has a [-] beside it to indicate it is still expanded. 8.) Double click on TESTDIR and it collapses. 9.) Double click on TESTDIR again to expand it. This time the sidebar shows .HIDDENDIR in the sidebar treeview _twice_. 10.) Repeat steps 7 to 9 and the sidebar will show 3, 4, 5... instances of .HIDDENDIR Weird huh? Questions, comments, need more info? Please CC me as I'm not subscribed to this list. Regards, ~Scott