On Sunday 28 October 2001 14:24, Kevin Reichard wrote: | When did you do this? I just tried msn.com with Netscape 4.7 and 6.1 | (Linux and Windows), Amaya (Windows and Linux), Mozilla (Windows and | Linux), and Opera (Windows and Linux) identifying itself as Mozilla 5.0, | 4.7, IE, and Opera, and in each case the page loaded correctly. | I forgot to add: neither http://www.msn.com nor http://photos.msn.com validates by W3C Validator, as of now (so, nothing changed from Friday, Oct.26th) So, Microsoft's claims about standard-compliance are false and misleading. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msn.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline ------------------------------------ URI: http://www.msn.com/ Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 Content Length: 28089 Detected Character Encoding: utf-8 Fatal Error: no document type declaration; will parse without validation I could not parse this document, because it uses a public identifier that is not in my catalog. You should make the first line of your HTML document a DOCTYPE declaration, for example, for a typical HTML 4.01 document: Title <-- ... body of document ... --> Sorry, I can't validate this document. Source Listing Below is the source input I used for this validation: 1: Welcome to MSN.com Title <-- ... body of document ... --> Sorry, I can't validate this document. Source Listing Below is the source input I used for this validation: 1: