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Subject: Re: KDevelop's welcome page
From: Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date: 2011-12-02 16:33:35
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On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Michael Andersson <
> mike.andersson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A few points:
>>
>> * Round edges is contemporary and definitely can be professional. In
>> fact, sharp edges have a '90:s air to them and should be avoided unless
>> they're designed very well.
>>
>> * I am one of the significant minority that gets headaches from bright
>> backdrops. All my UI:s are set to dark colours. Your mock-ups presuppose
>> white backdrops, which not only looks bad for us with dark colour schemes
>> but also is actually painful. I would recommend that the colours
>> auto-adjust, or that you prepare a dark scheme too.
>>
>> The basic design is nice though!
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On 16 November 2011 20:41, Sven Brauch <svenbrauch@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks cool! Are you sure about the round corners? Maybe it'd look more
>>> professional with sharp ones, no? :)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> 2011/11/16 Ruan Strydom <rm3dom@gmail.com>:
>>> > Just an idea
>>> >
>>> > http://www.jcell.co.za/welcome.png
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> >
>>> > On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 02:29:30 AM Aleix Pol wrote:
>>> >> Hi!
>>> >> So I wanted to give a push to the welcome page these days, here there
>>> are
>>> >> some results. I think it's more or less ready to be merged to master,
>>> but
>>> >> probably you'll want to change some things ( ;) ) so that's why I'm
>>> sending
>>> >> this mail here.
>>> >>
>>> >> It's on the welcomepage branch, if you want to you can try it now. It
>>> >> should just work. If it doesn't: poke me :).
>>> >>
>>> >> For those lazier I've prepared some screenshots so that you can have
>>> an
>>> >> idea of what it looks like:
>>> >> http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png
>>> >> http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage-learn.png<
>>> http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png>
>>> >> http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage1.png<
>>> http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png>
>>> >> http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage2.png<
>>> http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png>
>>> >>
>>> >> Furthermore, I know I'm no good designer. If someone wants to help
>>> with the
>>> >> looks, I'll be deeply thankful :).
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers!
>>> >> Aleix
>>> >
>>> >
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>
> To be fair, I don't really mind if they are rounded or square :)
>
> Do you think you could adapt the mockup pixmaps to the QML BorderImage [1]
> element?
>
> This way we can start using them...
>
> Aleix
>
> [1]
> http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/qml-borderimage.html?tab=1
>
Well, we can't leave this thread like this.
If somebody thinks it is too ugly, please provide an idea (something
further than just a mock up image). Otherwise I'll merge to master and
there we can play with it. In any case I don't think it's worse than a gray
screen...
It would be good to use the KDE QML Components, but I don't think it's an
option for KDev 4.3 since we would depend on KDE 4.8, but theming will be
easier and more integrated once it's done.
If you guys still think it's too bad for us, then let's just start the kdev
4.3 process and plan a soon-ish 4.4.
Thoughts?
Aleix
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<div><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Aleix Pol <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at \
1:56 PM, Michael Andersson <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:mike.andersson@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">mike.andersson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <font color="#003300"><font face="georgia,serif">A few \
points:<br><br>* Round edges is contemporary and definitely can be professional. In \
fact, sharp edges have a '90:s air to them and should be avoided unless \
they're designed very well. <br>
<br>* I am one of the significant minority that gets headaches from bright backdrops. \
All my UI:s are set to dark colours. Your mock-ups presuppose white backdrops, which \
not only looks bad for us with dark colour schemes but also is actually painful. I \
would recommend that the colours auto-adjust, or that you prepare a dark scheme \
too.<br>
<br>The basic design is nice though!<span><font \
color="#888888"><br><br>Michael<br><br></font></span></font></font><div><div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On 16 November 2011 20:41, Sven Brauch <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:svenbrauch@googlemail.com" \
target="_blank">svenbrauch@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">Looks cool! Are you sure about the round corners? Maybe \
it'd look more<br> professional with sharp ones, no? :)<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
2011/11/16 Ruan Strydom <<a href="mailto:rm3dom@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">rm3dom@gmail.com</a>>:<br> <div><div></div><div>> Just an \
idea<br> ><br>
> <a href="http://www.jcell.co.za/welcome.png" \
target="_blank">http://www.jcell.co.za/welcome.png</a><br> ><br>
> Cheers<br>
><br>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 02:29:30 AM Aleix Pol wrote:<br>
>> Hi!<br>
>> So I wanted to give a push to the welcome page these days, here there \
are<br> >> some results. I think it's more or less ready to be merged to \
master, but<br> >> probably you'll want to change some things ( ;) ) so \
that's why I'm sending<br> >> this mail here.<br>
>><br>
>> It's on the welcomepage branch, if you want to you can try it now. \
It<br> >> should just work. If it doesn't: poke me :).<br>
>><br>
>> For those lazier I've prepared some screenshots so that you can have \
an<br> >> idea of what it looks like:<br>
>> <a href="http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png" \
target="_blank">http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png</a><br> >> \
<a href="http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage-learn.png" \
target="_blank">http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage-learn.png</a><<a \
href="http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png" \
target="_blank">http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png</a>><br>
>> <a href="http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage1.png" \
target="_blank">http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage1.png</a><<a \
href="http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png" \
target="_blank">http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png</a>><br>
>> <a href="http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage2.png" \
target="_blank">http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage2.png</a><<a \
href="http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png" \
target="_blank">http://proli.net/meu/kdevelop/kdev-welcomepage.png</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Furthermore, I know I'm no good designer. If someone wants to help with \
the<br> >> looks, I'll be deeply thankful :).<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers!<br>
>> Aleix<br>
><br>
><br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><div><br></div></div></div><div>To be fair, I don't \
really mind if they are rounded or square :)</div><div><br></div><div>Do you think \
you could adapt the mockup pixmaps to the QML BorderImage [1] element?</div>
<div><br></div><div>This way we can start using \
them...</div><div><br></div><div>Aleix</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a \
href="http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/qml-borderimage.html?tab=1" \
target="_blank">http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/qml-borderimage.html?tab=1</a></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div><div>Well, we can't leave this thread like \
this.<div><br></div></div><div>If somebody thinks it is too ugly, please provide an \
idea (something further than just a mock up image). Otherwise I'll merge to \
master and there we can play with it. In any case I don't think it's worse \
than a gray screen...</div>
<div><br></div><div>It would be good to use the KDE QML Components, but I don't \
think it's an option for KDev 4.3 since we would depend on KDE 4.8, but theming \
will be easier and more integrated once it's done.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If you guys still think it's too bad for us, then let's \
just start the kdev 4.3 process and plan a soon-ish \
4.4.</div><div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div><div>Aleix</div><div><br></div>
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