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List:       kdevelop-devel
Subject:    Re: Arrangement of toolbar icons
From:       Gerhard Stengel <Gerhard.Stengel () gmx ! net>
Date:       2010-12-03 0:29:42
Message-ID: 201012030129.42784.Gerhard.Stengel () gmx ! net
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Hmm, don't know. I played around with kmail and kdenlive (which both have several tool bars) \
and except from some  unexplicable behaviour of the separator (it's not shown sometimes between \
two different toolbars) it worked quite as  expected.
In kmail I saw an element <Merge> which seems to have the purpose to control where a toolbar \
further down in the list is  inserted relative to the predecessor. A feature like this would \
maybe solve the problem that related icons (like "Save"  and "Save All") are torn apart. This \
feature would allow the <KatePartView> toolbar to be directly inserted into the  <kdevelop> \
toolbar. How this is supposed to work if you have as many toolbars as in kdevelop I don't know. \
 There seems to be something really strange going on with the "Save" symbol, though. If I take \
it away, I just have the  non-optimal but explicable placement of the toolbars, but there seems \
to be no bug at least. But "Save" is buggy. 

regards

Gerhard
Am Dienstag, 30. November 2010, 22:56:08 schrieb Andreas Pakulat:
> On 30.11.10 21:57:45, Gerhard Stengel wrote:
> > I think there are some problems in the arrangement of the toolbar icons (just tested 4.1.1)
> > 
> > I'd like to group similar actions together, like "New" next to "Save". Now "New" belongs to \
> > the <kdevelop> toolbar 
and 
> > "Save" and "Save As" to <KatePartView>, so they end up in different toolbars even though \
> > they're quite closely 
related. 
> > 
> > While the "Configure toolbars" dialogue is open, I'm able to position the icons directly in \
> > the toolbar per drag & 
drop. 
> > However, this change is lost when I change between the "Code" and the "Debug" view and \
> > back. So this  doesn't seem to be a way to achieve the grouping I's like to have. Is there \
> > any? If not, this would be a 
nice 
> > feature, because to the user it isn't interesting from which toolbar a certain icon comes, \
> > it's more important to be  able to group them in a logical way.
> > 
> > Another strange thing is that if I configure the toolbars with the "Configure toolbar" \
> > dialogue and do an operation 
that 
> > may be totally unrelated to the <kdevelop> toolbar, the "Save" icon always jumps right of \
> > the new icon, so it's no  longer inside its toolbar, the <KatePartView>. However, If I \
> > activate the views Code->Debug->Code, the "Save" icon  changes its place back into the \
> > <KatePartView> toolbar. This seems like a bug to me.
> 
> I'm pretty sure you're barking up the wrong tree here unfortunately
> (except for the loss of changes when switching between debug and code
> area). The toolbar configuration and the menu layout stuff is all
> defined (and constrained) by the KDE XML Gui framework. It can be found
> in kdelibs/kdeui/xmlgui, has only one or two persons who really
> understand it and doesn't work very well for apps like KDevelop who
> rather want much control over where items are being added to the menu.
> 
> Andreas
> 
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