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Subject: Re: dreaming...
From: Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date: 2010-05-18 21:08:15
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On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A question, and I'll try to keep it short. It is about a VERY immature
> funding *idea*. No expectations please...
>
> The idea is that we do have a dream - make development easy.
>
> It is about connecting some dots: GHNS/KNX, the OBS, Opendesktop.org
> and KDevelop/Plasmate. I think ya'll know what I mean.
>
> Example: user works with KWrite, sees an bug, clicks for example the
> 'help' menu, chooses 'develop this app' and 5 minutes later the
> sources are automatically downloaded from svn/git, -devel packages
> installed and he/she is looking at the source file of KWrite in
> KDevelop. Once the fix has been made, click on 'send for review', and
> it's posted on review board. Or published on KDE-apps.org, where
> packages for a dozen distributions are compiled automatically by OBS
> (including feedback on build errors).
>
> Similar story with Plasmate - see plasmoid, like, click 'edit'
> somewhere, it gets downloaded from GHNX/KNX, you code, and click
> upload to share it (in case of C++, OBS again comes in to compile it).
>
> Now this is all lovely, and we have most of the infrastructure, but
> the dots still need to be connected. Doesn't that sound like something
> beautiful to have funding for? Yep, it does. However, potential
> investors will want to know how expensive it would be and how much
> time it would cost. Yes, even if you just trow around wild ideas like
> I just did it helps a lot to have (raw) numbers. And as I'm neither a
> developer nor expert in any of the technologies I mentioned, I can't
> give even the vaguest clue as to how much time/effort this would cost.
>
> So for the two scenario's above, who can throw a thumb in the air and
> guestimate the number of man-weeks/months or say "3 guys/girls, 6
> months" or something? And, also important, do we have the people to do
> it, are there developers here who would be willing and capable?
>
> Again, I don't have much hope for funding, but it never hurts to try...
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Hi,
My GSoC this year is mainly aimed to do most of the things you say. So it's
Google who's funding that.
If you want to better know what I'm doing, I can send you my application or
just search in google's SoC portal, but it mainly involves easing the import
of projects from communities, provide information regarding the community
once it's imported and help the user to contribute back to the community.
I didn't plan to add such item in the Help menu's but once the GSoC's
finished we could consider to do so, why not? :)
Hope that helps.
Aleix
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Jos Poortvliet <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jospoortvliet@gmail.com">jospoortvliet@gmail.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Hi all,<br>
<br>
A question, and I'll try to keep it short. It is about a VERY immature<br>
funding *idea*. No expectations please...<br>
<br>
The idea is that we do have a dream - make development easy.<br>
<br>
It is about connecting some dots: GHNS/KNX, the OBS, Opendesktop.org<br>
and KDevelop/Plasmate. I think ya'll know what I mean.<br>
<br>
Example: user works with KWrite, sees an bug, clicks for example the<br>
'help' menu, chooses 'develop this app' and 5 minutes later the<br>
sources are automatically downloaded from svn/git, -devel packages<br>
installed and he/she is looking at the source file of KWrite in<br>
KDevelop. Once the fix has been made, click on 'send for review', and<br>
it's posted on review board. Or published on KDE-apps.org, where<br>
packages for a dozen distributions are compiled automatically by OBS<br>
(including feedback on build errors).<br>
<br>
Similar story with Plasmate - see plasmoid, like, click 'edit'<br>
somewhere, it gets downloaded from GHNX/KNX, you code, and click<br>
upload to share it (in case of C++, OBS again comes in to compile it).<br>
<br>
Now this is all lovely, and we have most of the infrastructure, but<br>
the dots still need to be connected. Doesn't that sound like something<br>
beautiful to have funding for? Yep, it does. However, potential<br>
investors will want to know how expensive it would be and how much<br>
time it would cost. Yes, even if you just trow around wild ideas like<br>
I just did it helps a lot to have (raw) numbers. And as I'm neither a<br>
developer nor expert in any of the technologies I mentioned, I can't<br>
give even the vaguest clue as to how much time/effort this would cost.<br>
<br>
So for the two scenario's above, who can throw a thumb in the air and<br>
guestimate the number of man-weeks/months or say "3 guys/girls, 6<br>
months" or something? And, also important, do we have the people to do<br>
it, are there developers here who would be willing and capable?<br>
<br>
Again, I don't have much hope for funding, but it never hurts to try...<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><div>Hi,</div><div>My GSoC this year is mainly aimed to do \
most of the things you say. So it's Google who's funding that.</div><div>If \
you want to better know what I'm doing, I can send you my application or just \
search in google's SoC portal, but it mainly involves easing the import of \
projects from communities, provide information regarding the community once it's \
imported and help the user to contribute back to the community.</div> \
<div><br></div><div>I didn't plan to add such item in the Help menu's but \
once the GSoC's finished we could consider to do so, why not? \
:)</div><div><br></div><div>Hope that helps.</div><div>Aleix</div>
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