From kdevelop  Thu Dec 14 19:26:57 2006
From: Roland Krause <rokrau () yahoo ! com>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:26:57 +0000
To: kdevelop
Subject: Re: KMDI bugs (Was: Remarks on 3.3.93)
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Last year we paid Njaard of KDE fame (noatun) to make a little backport
of the current KMDI from KDE libs to Qt only.

It can be found here

http://www.derkarl.org/qkmdi.php

Of course the codebase is an ugly mess but it is still usable. 

Reimplementing it will necessarily either come up short in features or
end up with a similar codebase. 

If anyone wants to keep maintaining the above code base and make a
little money on the side, contact me offline. 

Roland

--- Alexander Dymo <dymo@mk.ukrtelecom.ua> wrote:

> On Tuesday 12 December 2006 21:40, kitts wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 December 2006 00:53 IST, Jens Dagerbo wrote:
> > > Two completely different codebases. Feel free to compare:
> > > Simple is part of kdevelop:
> > > http://websvn.kde.org/branches/kdevelop/3.4/src/newui/
> > > KMDI is in kdelibs:
> > > http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdelibs/kmdi/
> > Eeks! I don't understand much from that. I've barely ever written a
> program
> > with GUI. Thanks for those links anyway. :-)
> What Jens was trying to show you is that kmdi codebase is too old,
> too
> complicated and hard to understand and fix ;)
> Other than that kmdi ideal has toolview focusing problems, does not
> remember the state of the toolviews (opened/closed, width, overlap,
> etc.),
> has significant problems with undocked toolview layouts, etc. 
> It's also slower than anything else. Kate devels reported problems 
> with xinerama. The list of problems is just too long ;)
> 
> > > Fun fact: KMDI was originally a Qt2 library, written and
> maintained on
> > > Windows, that was ported to Qt3 and hasn't had a fulltime
> maintainer
> > > since 2003-2004.
> > So the interest for it was driven by a windows port. KMDI is used
> elsewhere
> > too. right? 
> Kate, Quanta, KDevelop, Kyzis and others were using kmdi library but
> in KDE 3.5 Kate does that no more, KDevelop 3.4 also doesn't. Same
> for Kyzis.
> IIRC Quanta is the only one large application that still uses kmdi.
> 
> > Like in kate. is there an equivalent when moving to kde4/qt4?
> For now there's no one gui library like kmdi for KDE4.
> 
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