From kdepim-users Sun Dec 15 21:03:35 2019 From: Paul Vixie Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 21:03:35 +0000 To: kdepim-users Subject: Re: why is there so much "weird shit" in akonadi/kdepim? Message-Id: <3039322.tB6CnaKgVs () linux-9daj> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kdepim-users&m=157644445706536 On Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:52:44 UTC John White wrote: > ... I live in kmail. > Over the years I have tried several email clients and kmail, with all its > faults, is still the best. At least for pop3. +1. > If pgsql will solve some of the existing problems, and I know exactly what > to do in order to make the switch, and if I won't lose ability to search my > old kmail files, I want to try it. you won't regret it. > But I don't understand why, if pgsql is > better, the developers don't use it. I don't understand why, if akonadi is > "junk", why the kmail developers still use it. pgsql doesn't auto-upgrade as smoothly as mysql. going from pg10 to pg11 requires a dump/restore cycle, or deletion of the akonadi tables and recreating them (by fetching all your stored e-mail and re-extracting its metadata.) so, it's work. if you stick to the first major version of pgsql you ever start with, and just do minor patch-level updates to it, there's no problem. but getting this right for non-expert users is really quite hard. > It there anyway to get some > kind of consensus as to which is better and whether switching causes other > problems? Is there some way to get some input from the developers > concerning this matter? the dev team for kdepim is small, expert, passionate, and focused on the things that are really deeply broken or missing, which have no workarounds. i expect that if they ran a "gofundme" so that they could dedicate time, as a team, to this project, then changing the default database engine would make threshold. but right now they are volunteering, and we are lucky to have them. -- Paul