On Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:22:18 GMT Paul Vixie wrote: > akonadi is junk, abandonware. we are stuck with it but it has no champion= =2E a bad situation. switch to postgres and restart it twice every day and = you will be able to use kontact. a fine trade. moving to postgres has definitely made things a lot better for me > =E2=81=A3Get BlueMail for Android =E2=80=8B >=20 > On 12 Dec 2019, 14:07, at 14:07, Mathias Homann wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >why is kdepim / akonadi such a high maintenance system? > > > >I mean seriously, sometimes it feels i spend twice as much time keeping > > > >akonadi happy and working than i spend actually reading email or > >working with=20 > >addressbook or calendar. And I'm subscribed to a lot of openSUSE > >mailing=20 > >lists, so that says something. > > > >Here's a choice selection of hoops that akonadi and/or kdepim places in > >front=20 > >of me to hop through: > > > >- sometimes the webdav ressource forgets its configured username, > >password,=20 > >and server url for no reason. when that happens there is NO indication > >that it=20 > >happened, other than calendar entries that I created with some other > >tool,=20 > >e.g. on my phone, do not show up in kontact. So by now I am trained to > >check=20 > >wether the nextcloud connection still works before creating a calendar > >entry. > > > >- i have a "lost+found" folder in my mail, that contains unreadable > >headers of=20 > >about 300 emails from as far as two years back. the folder is > >permanently=20 > >offline, so I can't do anything about it. I also can't find that folder > > > >anywhere on my harddisk. > > > >- sometimes when i move emails from one folder to another the mails do > >get=20 > >moved on the imap server, but in kmail they stay behind in the source > >folder=20 > >and no amount of akonadictl restart and/or restarting kontact convinces > >the=20 > >system that the mails have been moved > > > >- several of the ressources akonadi uses fail to understand the kde > >typical=20 > >"file://" urls for folders. as a result i have a lot of folders under > >~/.local=20 > >and/or ~/.share and/or ~/.config that start with "file://" as the name. > >Common factor here seems to be that all these are maildir folders used > >by=20 > >akonadi to store stuff, for example knotes notes. > > > >- "empty all trashcans" only works on the trashcan in the account that > >you=20 > >have selected, and then only when you are actually looking at that > >trash=20 > >folder, and then only when you are lucky. > > > >- sending mails leaves copies of the mails in local-folders/outbox even > >though=20 > >the mails are properly put into the sent folder for the account that > >sent=20 > >them. > > > >now the advocatus diaboli raises his head and asks: if other pim-like > >apps=20 > >(thunderbird) can do all this without a "middleware" like akonadi, and > >do it=20 > >right, what is the point of akonadi? > > > >And YES i AM ranting. > > > >Sorry, had to let that out. > > > > > >Cheers > >MH > > > >*Mathias Homann* > >Mathias.Homann@openSUSE.org[1] > >telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98[2] > >irc: [lemmy] on freenode and ircnet > >obs: lemmy04 > >*gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 > >C102 > > > >* > > > >-------- > >[1] mailto:Mathias.Homann@eregion.de > >[2] https://telegram.me/lemmy98 >=20 =2D-=20 opensuse:tumbleweed:20191210 Qt: 5.13.1 KDE Frameworks: 5.64.0 - KDE Plasma: 5.17.3 - kwin 5.17.3 kmail2 5.12.3 - akonadiserver 5.12.3 - Kernel: 5.3.12-1-default - xf86-vi= deo-nouveau: 1.0.15