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List:       kdepim-users
Subject:    Re: any progress on kmail in debian buster?
From:       John White <john () whitelawchartered ! com>
Date:       2019-09-18 5:07:08
Message-ID: 7380454.cIRPhW6ymx () johwhi
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Bottom posted:

On Thursday, September 5, 2019 7:59:57 AM PDT John White wrote:
> On Friday, August 16, 2019 11:34:40 AM PDT John White wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 16, 2019 7:35:24 AM PDT Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > > Hi John.
> > > > 
> > > > John White - 14.08.19, 19:16:54 CEST:
> > > > >  Since updating from jessie to buster kmail (pop-3) has not worked
> > > > > 
> > > > > right. It simply won't open, save, etc some emails.  This really
> > > > > messes things up.  If it keep trying to open one of the problem
> > > > > emails, kmail goes into la la land
> > > > > and just churns and churns.  Eventually, often, the computer will
> > > > > just
> > > > > freeze.  If it is not fixed soon, I fear I will have to try another
> > > > > email client.  As I love kmail, I will only do that if I have no
> > > > > choice.  I am told bug reports have been made, but its looking like
> > > > > nothing is being done.
> > > > 
> > > > I have Debian Sid with still the same KMail/Akonadi version than in
> > > > Debian Buster and I cannot reproduce this issue. POP3 just works fine
> > > > here. Using Akonadi with PostgreSQL backend, but it worked fine with
> > > > MariaDB as well.
> > > > 
> > > > Without further information (see my mail to peter in the thread 'All
> > > > local folders lost in KMail' for some hints on what information could
> > > > be
> > > > interesting) there is nothing more I can say.
> > > > 
> > > > But here is some other generic hints on what information to include:
> > > > 
> > > > KDE PIM/Development/Bug Reports
> > > > 
> > > > https://community.kde.org/KDE_PIM/Development/Bug_Reports
> > > > 
> > > > As for the situation in Debian: I am not happy about it. I do have
> > > > some
> > > > stability issues with KMail 18.04 in Debian just crashing several
> > > > times
> > > > a day to due some Qt WebEngine related issue that has been fixed in
> > > > newer
> > > > versions. However… Akonadi mostly behaves here, especially after I
> > > > switched to PostgreSQL.
> > > > 
> > > > However… upstream is not responsible for what version is packaged in
> > > > Debian. You could ask on debian-kde mailing list. Some members of the
> > > > Debian/Kubuntu Qt/KDE Team are subscribed there. However the chances
> > > > for
> > > > any backport of a newer KDEPIM version for Debian Sid to Debian Buster
> > > > would be slim as the team is very small and may just not manage to
> > > > find
> > > > the time to provide and maintain such a backport.
> > > > 
> > > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > Martin
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 8:07:27 AM PDT John White wrote:
> > > > > > Since updating from jessie to buster kmail has not worked right.
> > > > > > It
> > > > > > simply won't open, save, etc some emails.  This really messes
> > > > > > things up.  If it keep trying to open one of the problem emails,
> > > > > > kmail goes into la la land and just churns and churns. 
> > > > > > Eventually,
> > > > > > often, the computer will just freeze.  If it is not fixed soon, I
> > > > > > fear I will have to try another email client.  As I love kmail, I
> > > > > > will only do that if I have no choice.  I am told bug reports have
> > > > > > been made, but its looking like nothing is being done.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > John White
> > > > > > White Law Chartered
> > > > > > 335 W 1st St
> > > > > > Reno, NV 89503
> > 
> > On Friday, August 16, 2019 9:39:01 AM PDT John White wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks.  Wonderful email.  I will try all your suggestions.  I sure hope
> > something works.
> 
> I am starting to see a pattern of sorts. About one out of every fifteen
> emails just won't open.  Many, perhaps most are junk, such as the one I
> received a few minutes ago from beautimode block block block@gmail.com. 
> Clicking on them brings up the "please wait" screen and eventually the
> screen freezes. Also, I can't delete or get those problem emails to show as
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fixed soon, I fear I will have to try another</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
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&gt; &gt; I have Debian Sid with still the same KMail/Akonadi version than in</p> <p \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Debian \
Buster and I cannot reproduce this issue. POP3 just works fine</p> <p style=" \
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Using Akonadi with PostgreSQL backend, but it worked fine with</p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; MariaDB \
as well.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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&gt; &gt; Without further information (see my mail to peter in the thread 'All</p> <p \
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folders lost in KMail' for some hints on what information could</p> <p style=" \
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interesting) there is nothing more I can say.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
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text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; </p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; But here \
is some other generic hints on what information to include:</p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; </p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; KDE \
PIM/Development/Bug Reports</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; \
https://community.kde.org/KDE_PIM/Development/Bug_Reports</p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; </p> <p \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; As for \
the situation in Debian: I am not happy about it. I do have</p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; some</p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
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issues with KMail 18.04 in Debian just crashing several</p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; times</p> \
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due some Qt WebEngine related issue that has been fixed in</p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; newer</p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; versions. \
However… Akonadi mostly behaves here, especially after I</p> <p style=" \
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to PostgreSQL.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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&gt; &gt; </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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&gt; &gt; However… upstream is not responsible for what version is packaged in</p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Debian. \
You could ask on debian-kde mailing list. Some members of the</p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; \
Debian/Kubuntu Qt/KDE Team are subscribed there. However the chances</p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for</p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; any \
backport of a newer KDEPIM version for Debian Sid to Debian Buster</p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; would be \
slim as the team is very small and may just not manage to</p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; find</p> \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the time \
to provide and maintain such a backport.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
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text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; </p> <p style=" \
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https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
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Martin</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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&gt; &gt; </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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&gt; &gt; &gt; On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 8:07:27 AM PDT John White wrote:</p> <p \
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Since updating from jessie to buster kmail has not worked right.</p> <p style=" \
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It</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; simply won't open, save, etc some emails.  This really messes</p> \
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things up.  If it keep trying to open one of the problem emails,</p> <p style=" \
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kmail goes into la la land and just churns and churns. </p> <p style=" \
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Eventually,</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; often, the computer will just freeze.  If it is not fixed soon, \
I</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; \
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; fear I will have to try another email client.  As I love kmail, \
I</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; \
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; will only do that if I have no choice.  I am told bug reports \
have</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; \
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; been made, but its looking like nothing is being done.</p> <p \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; \
</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; \
John White</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; \
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; White Law Chartered</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 335 W 1st St</p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; \
Reno, NV 89503</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; \
</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; On Friday, August \
16, 2019 9:39:01 AM PDT John White wrote:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; something \
works.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; I am starting to see a \
pattern of sorts. About one out of every fifteen</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; emails just won't open.  Many, perhaps most \
are junk, such as the one I</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">&gt; received a few minutes ago from beautimode block block \
block@gmail.com. </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; \
Clicking on them brings up the &quot;please wait&quot; screen and eventually the</p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; screen freezes. Also, I \
can't delete or get those problem emails to show as</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; read, at least unless I go to folder \
properties and mark all emails in that</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; folder as read.  Even then I can't delete \
them from my inbox. If the little</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">&gt; blue instant popup screen (which for the life of me I can't \
figure out how</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; to \
turn off) does not show it is difficult to determine that the email is</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; good or bad.</p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; John</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; ">&nbsp;</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">This evening, I received the \
following error message from kmail. </p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; ">&nbsp;</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" \
font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; font-size:12px; color:#666666; \
background-color:#ffffff;">&quot;&quot;Your POP3 server (Whitelawchartered) does not \
support the UIDL command. &gt; This command is required to determine, in a reliable \
way, which of the mails &gt; on the server Kmail has already seen before. the feature \
to leave the mails &gt; on the server will therefore not work \
properly.&quot;&quot;</span></p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; ">&nbsp;</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">I sent it to siteground and received the following response:</p> \
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; ">&nbsp;</p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&quot;<a \
name="reply_11996948_body"></a><span style=" \
font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; font-size:12px; \
color:#666666;">T</span><span style=" font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; \
font-size:12px; color:#666666;">he UIDL capability of POP3 is enabled on the server \
and you can verify this with telnet as follows:</span><span style=" \
font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; font-size:12px; color:#666666;"><br \
/><br /></span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; font-size:12px; \
color:#666666;">Code:</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0; background-color:#dddddd;"><span style=" \
font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; font-size:12px; color:#666666; \
background-color:#dddddd;">Stanimir-Panayotov:~ stanimirpanayotov$</span><span \
style=" font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; font-size:12px; \
color:#666666;">  </span><span style=" font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; \
font-size:12px; font-weight:600; color:#666666;">telnet whitelawchartered.com \
110</span><span style=" font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; \
font-size:12px; color:#666666;"><br />Trying 146.66.68.211...<br />Connected to \
whitelawchartered.com.<br />Escape character is '^]'.<br />+OK Dovecot ready.<br \
/></span><span style=" font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; font-size:12px; \
font-weight:600; color:#666666;">CAPA</span><span style=" \
font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; font-size:12px; color:#666666;"><br \
/>+OK<br />CAPA<br />TOP<br /></span><span style=" \
font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; font-size:12px; font-weight:600; \
color:#666666;">UIDL</span><span style=" \
font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; font-size:12px; color:#666666;"><br \
/>RESP-CODES<br />PIPELINING<br />AUTH-RESP-CODE<br />STLS<br />USER<br />SASL PLAIN \
LOGIN<br />.</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif'; \
font-size:12px; color:#666666;"><br /><br />Best Regards,<br /><br />Stanimir \
Panayotov<br />Senior Technical Support</span>&quot;</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; ">&nbsp;</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Anyone have a clue what I \
should do now?</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; ">&nbsp;</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">Thanks</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; ">&nbsp;</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">John</p></body></html>



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