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List:       kdepim-users
Subject:    Re: [kdepim-users] Searching x 2
From:       "O. Sinclair" <o.sinclair () gmail ! com>
Date:       2012-01-29 9:38:24
Message-ID: 4F251390.6000801 () gmail ! com
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On 29/01/12 11:24, Anders Lund wrote:
> S=F8ndag den 29. januar 2012 09:36:48 O. Sinclair skrev:
>> ~qdbus org.kde.NepomukServer /nepomukserver quit
>> ~rm -rf $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/apps/nepomuk/
>> ~nepomukserver&
>
> That (rm step) removes the nepomuk data, thus forcing it to redo everythi=
ng,
> and also deleting valuable data if you generate any yourself (by tagging,
> commenting or rating files).  I don't think that step is nessecary. I hav=
e not
> practiced that, and all my mail is indexed and searchable - just not from
> within kmail. A proof of that is that typing a word that is in a mail bod=
y in
> krunner (ALT + F2 if you run kde) brings a reference to that mail, albeit
> currently useless as stated earlier in this thread.
>
>> helped me at least - though search is still pretty useless. Search for
>> filename "current" and get totally unrelated mp3 files on "top" of
>> search results. KFind works way better.
>
> You are searching for mail file names using dolpin? I have learned yester=
day
> that mail is not stored in the directory your storage resource points to,=
 but
> rather a hidden directory of the same name, so that if you use default st=
orage
> of ~/.local/share/local-mail, the mail is actually in ~/.local/share/.loc=
al-
> mail.directory (notice the dot in the last directory name).
>
> That is a *bug*.
>
> I really don't think the problem is with nepomuk, I believe it is some bu=
g in
> akonadi or its agents. That is only my impression though, but for me, nep=
omuk
> generally does a very good job.
>
>> Sorry am a bit fed up with the whole thing.
>
> Yes, me too, it appears that if I want to use kdepim 4.8 kmail2
>
> * mail is not storaged where configured
> * search is not possible.
> * search using nepoumk krunner finds items, but can not open them correct=
ly.
> * filtering is not possible, because if enabed, akonadi will infinitely
> duplicate mail.
> * address completion is not working
> * operations moving a lot of mails takes *very* long time and renders the
> system unusable meanwhile, and might require restarting akonadi, nepomuk =
and
> kmail (importing a folder of 3000 messages is like that, moving them with=
in
> kmail2 not quite so bad, but still bad)
>
> For me, the mosta annoying thing during normal workflow will be the missi=
ng
> filtering and address completion.
>
> Philosophically seen, the wrong location of files is the worst.
>
> Psycologically seen, the potential overtaking the system for a long, unde=
fined
> period is the worst (I will not feel comfortable not checking mail for a =
week
> for example, as the potential horror of receiving many mails at one time =
is
> scary)
>
> On the upside, kmail2 is actually very spiffy and well working, those "sm=
all
> details" aside. And for me, updating the rest of kdepim have a very big v=
alue,
> esp korganizer that I use quite a bit with many (well, 5-7) resources have
> improved drastically in usability, and kaddressbook can now show all my
> contacts from different resources in one list, which is very handy.
>
> For now, my plan is to try if I can live with kmail2 while it gets fixed.
> Alternatively, I think the quality of kdepim 4.8 in general will make me =
use
> some othe mail client meanwhile.
>
Hej Anders (kunde inte motst=E5, du m=E5ste vara skandinav med det namnet)

no I am not searching for mail - I try to search for a file, in this =

case a spreadsheet. From Dolpin, when I use the search function ticked =

for "filename" and I type "current" my top results are a bunch of mp3 =

files that certainly do NOT have "current" in the file names. Or tags (I =

don't use tags, seems rather pointless to me). Or whatever as far as I =

know, I guess searching on content in mp3 files is a no-brainer.

So I am not "getting it". If I use good old KFind it takes a wee bit =

longer but produces a correct result.

As for KMail2 I had it working nicely pre 4.8 and even for a day or so =

in 4.8. Then suddenly mail address autocompletion died, filters work on =

and off (like on one boot it does, on the next not) and my distribution =

lists are empty. And the list thing is very annoying, that seems to =

happen every time I update.

Apart from that I really like 4.8.. but the BASIC function of Search and =

KMail seems botched to me.

Best,
=D6rjan
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