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Subject:    [kdepim-users] Re: [opensuse] Kmail preview pane
From:       Torgny Nyblom <kde () nyblom ! org>
Date:       2011-04-08 8:54:49
Message-ID: 2200692.6CaPltCWnO () explosive ! nyblom ! org
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On Monday 04 April 2011 23.13.56 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 22:54 on Monday 04 April 2011, Ingo Klöcker
> 
> did opine thusly:
> > > I don't think you have a basis for feeling insulted. None of us is
> > > clairvoyant.
> > 
> > I'm not feeling insulted by you. Don't get me wrong. I'm feeling
> > insulted by Mr. McKinnon. As Anne did already point out he wrote "But
> > the kdepim devs are showing every sign of being brain-dead [...]". Being
> > one of those kdepim devs (albeit a mostly inactive one) I think I have a
> > pretty good basis for feeling insulted by Mr. McKinnon.
> 
> You can feel that way if you wish, that is your right. You may also ignore
> me and brush me off as an ignorant fool.

Either way Alan that was a comment that was out of line.
 
> But you have no idea what kdepim has put me through the past 3 months. I
> have not found a single version after 4.4.10 that is usable in any
> realistic definition of the word.

Remind me again, what is the last stable release of KDEPIM?

> 4.5.94 was the one I stayed with the longest. It had no calendar entries,
> they were just missing. I eventually found a post on the KDE forums that
> explained why - apparently someone forgot to do something with the code and
> hey whoopsie, no calendar info. Clicking on a mail in the folder view took
> seconds to refresh. IMAP connections would mysteriously disappear. none of
> these things were present in 4.4.10
> 
> This is a dual core notebook with 4G RAM and slightly more than 4G swap. 10
> minutes after a reboot, with akonadi taking 100% cpu on both cores, I would
> run out of swap. RUN OUT OF SWAP! The notebook was unusable because of a
> reindexing going on between akonadi and nepomuk (strigi text indexing is
> disabled).
> 
> I've read all the dev's reasoning behind the changes and in a corporate
> environment needing groupware that is fine, I suppose. But I have found no
> evidence anywhere that the kdepim dev team consulted users who might not
> want all that. And that was the gist of my post.

As in any open source project the dessisions are made by those who does the 
work. Please feel free to drop by #kontact and start contrubuting, we need 
more people that work on the code (and yes most of the active pim developers 
are paid to work on the code by companies that care about the corporate 
environment).

/Regards
Torgny
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