From kdepim-users Fri May 11 19:12:27 2007 From: "Roy J. Tellason" Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 19:12:27 +0000 To: kdepim-users Subject: Re: [kdepim-users] kmail's disappearing uitilities and menu items? Message-Id: <200705111512.28141.rtellason () verizon ! net> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kdepim-users&m=117891113721109 On Friday 11 May 2007 14:44, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > I have been noticing that the busier folders have been getting drying paint > slow of late, so I went to check the expiry rules, and found them gone! > For all folders. > > This is an uptodate FC6 install, so can I be so rude as to ask WTF? Howdy Gene, long time... There are a number of changes that I'm less than pleased with. Expiry seems to have been removed from "properties" (where it should be, dammit!) and put on to its own menu entry that I _only_ see when I right-click on the folder. The "folder holds a mailing list" option is also gone, and now only shows up when I click on "folder" up on top of the screen under "mailing list management" but nowhere else. There's also a serious bug that cost me some mail -- if you have any folders set to expire (that box is checked but the one about _unread_ mail is NOT) it'll delete unread mail anyway. I posted in here about that a while back and nobody seems to be able to comment about it -- this is the place for such stuff, right? The workaround for that was to turn off expiry for _all_ folders and to just delete stuff as I go, instead of keeping say the last week's worth or whatever like I used to do, but that shouldn't have to be. In additional annoyance, there are times when I'll be trying to do something, whether reading or replying, and I'm locked out of things for several seconds only to see on my status line at the bottom of the screen that the software is _compacting_ some folder or other -- as with the expiry crap above, this seems to be something automated, not documented anywhere that I've been able to find or find out about, and no way apparent to me to disable the damn thing, as it's too resource-intensive on this older machine and wastes _my_ time, a limited resource in and of itself. One further annoyance is that occasionally some keystroke or other will do something like turn the text that I'm typing boldface. I don't use HTML mail at all, don't have those entries displayed in the toolbar any more (they were by default), and find it annoying to have to fix this when it happens. Finally, the statusline in my composer currently says "As-you-type spell checking disabled". WTF? I don't have any spell-checking installed, don't use it, don't need it, don't particularly want it, and don't want to see this in my status line! What I *would* like to see is that long list of errors that shows up on the TTY I fired things up on go away, as they've been there with every single instance of KDE that I've run since the first one, but nobody seems to want to be bothered with getting this stuff _working right_. I've had the idle thought of going into the source and trying to deal with some of this crap. But it doesn't seem to be a matter of concern to most of the folks in here and also strikes me as a process that could turn out to be extremely time-consuming, so it's not likely I'll bother doing so. I suspect that I'll either go to an earlier version of the software that doesn't do some of this crap or switch away from it to some other software entirely. I don't know WTF the developers and maintainers of this code think they're trying to do, but keeping users isn't apparently high on the list of their priorities, what with them being so busy with all the bells and whistles and chrome plating and whatnot. Fooey! -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed.  --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin _______________________________________________ KDE PIM users mailing list kdepim-users@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-users