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List:       kdepim-users
Subject:    Re: [kdepim-users] kmail: what it's doing...
From:       Bill Anderson <bill-kdepim () noreboots ! com>
Date:       2007-04-08 19:30:32
Message-ID: 200704081330.32452.bill-kdepim () noreboots ! com
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On Saturday 07 April 2007 12:40:52 Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 07 April 2007, Bill Anderson wrote:
> > On Saturday 07 April 2007 01:34:11 Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Friday 06 April 2007, Bill Anderson wrote:
> > > > On Friday 06 April 2007 12:46:02 Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > > Your choice, but that will not help you to ever know what caused
> > > > > it. It's not kmail's normal behaviour.  Something caused it.  How
> > > > > do you know that the same cause will not affect another
> > > > > application?  If it were me, I'd want to find the reason.
> > > >
> > > > It depends on how willing to lose email you are. I know for me I had
> > > > to remove all but one of my accounts from KMail because it was
> > > > deleting mail due to a (still unfixed) bug. Some bugs you can
> > > > tolerate while exploring, but when it comes to data loss one should
> > > > not be expected to "work through it".
> > >
> > > True.  For situations like this, I use very regular (several times a
> > > day) cron backups, in multi-generations :-)
> >
> > I'm with you there, but in my case even that wouldn't catch them. Bug
> > 138855. Messages come in, get filtered, sync happens, they get deleted.
> > It's sad to me because KMail is like the Capitalism of email clients: Of
> > all of them it sucks the least. ;)
> >
> > My other gripes I can mostly live with. Things like not being able to set
> > a view filter (such as viewing Unread Messages Only) on a folder and have
> > that be the default when I come back - instead of having to select it
> > every time; selecting a different sort order on one folder and that gets
> > set for all folders I view after; not being able to send a message to an
> > external app that returns a value I can use as a trigger for filters.
> > Those types of letdowns I can kinda live with. Unfortunately that bug is
> > just too dangerous to keep using Kmail.
> >
> > I suppose I could use an Inotify based script to pull all new messages
> > into a backup folder outside of kmail but it's not worth the trouble. I
> > could also go back to the debug build where it asks me each time, but
> > then well it gets ugly with all the dialogs.
>
> Is there any indication at all of when this started happening, Bill?  IOW,
> is it version-specific?

I've had it for the last several releases that I know of. I don't know how 
long it's been there as I confirmed it by accidentally building a debug 
enabled binary.

>
> It doesn't sound to be distro-specific, as you reported it in Gentoo, and I
> think Roy was using Slackware.
>
> This is the first time I've realised that you are talking about dimap - I
> wonder if Roy is, too.  I use plain imap, and don't see the behaviour you
> report.
>
> I can't think of any other variables that might apply, can you?
Nope. I've seen it with different IMAP servers to that one is ruled out as 
well.
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