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List:       kdepim-users
Subject:    Re: [kdepim-users] kpilot still broken in 3.5.6?
From:       "Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper" <vr () movingparts ! net>
Date:       2007-02-08 21:47:36
Message-ID: 200702081647.36389.vR () movingparts ! net
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On Tuesday 06 February 2007 02:05, Justin Nawrocki wrote:
> Okay, I managed to compile from SVN and am up an running with kpilot,
> but here are the symptoms I'm getting.  I'd like to run them by other
> people before doing anything like submitting a bug report, because I'm
> not really what I'd submit it under!
>
> *It seems that my calendar entries are now being synced back and
> forth.  This is great news.  However, I noticed that if I DELETE any
> entries on the PC side and then try to sync, they won't be deleted on
> the Palm side after sync, and then when I try to do anything in
> Kontact, it crashes.  So for now I've been just deleting things on the
> Palm side.  That works flawlessly.

Sounds like a bug.  If you can reproduce it and give us a good logfile from 
kpilotDaemon, please file a bug report for it.

> *Addressbook syncing is bizarre.  I changed a bunch of addresses on
> the Palm over the weekend, and upon first sync kpilot asked me which
> (PC or Palm) records to use.  On each record I told it to use the Palm
> records, except for one where I wanted to use the PC records.
> Regardless of what I wanted though, none of the changes showed up in
> Kontact.  Oddly, they DID show up in the Kpilot Addressviewer, though
> the categories I had put them into had been lost.  I think it has
> something to do with categories because this one category I'd made (in
> Japanese) got duplicated every time I synced, and all contacts ended
> up in there.  I'll try fiddling a bit more.

Hm.  Weird.  I have no idea about the Japanese naming thing.  Let us know what 
you find, please.

> *The Kpilot main window refuses to come up.  If I manually start
> kpilot the window will come up, but otherwise all I have is the tray
> icon.  Double-clicking does nothing.  The "Start KPilot" option in the
> right-click context menu also does nothing.  If I can get this fixed,
> then maybe I can have more useful information about the abovementioned
> Addressbook problem.

Ahh.  Well, the most useful thing you can do is kpilotDaemon > 
kpilotDaemon.log 2>&1.  That will let you (and us) see what the little guy is 
doing.  As for getting the window to come up...  You can do it without 
clicking on the icon by just running kpilot.  In fact, if you have installed 
kpilot or kpilotDaemon anywhere other than the same directories that you've 
installed the rest of KDE in, you'll need to do some extra work in getting 
this to work.  Of the top of my head, you'll need to set 
KDEDIR=/wherever/you/installed/kpilot, 
KDEDIRS=/wherever/you/installed/kpilot:/wherever/you/installed/KDE, and then 
run kbuildsycoca.  That might get things to work.  

Or just run kpilot from konsole.

> But first things first, any ideas about why the kpilot window refuses
> to come up?
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> Justin
>
> On 2/2/07, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper <vr@movingparts.net> wrote:
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > On Thursday 01 February 2007 08:23, Justin Nawrocki wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > > *I'm trying to sync a Sony Clie PEG-TJ25 (Japanese version), via USB. 
> > > I'm using SJIS encoding which seems to be the best, but to be honest I
> > > don't know whether I should be using that, EUCJP, or JIS7.
> >
> > Oh boy.  Well, I have no idea what language you should choose,
> > unfortunately. =:/
> >
> > > *I am typically trying just a plain Hotsync, but also PC->PDA, etc.
> > > have the same effect
> > > *What happened is that on first sync, all of my information (contacts,
> > > calendar, ToDo, etc.) was synced to the PC, and the calendar (and ToDo)
> > > was completely wiped from the PDA.  Addressbook entries and programs
> > > stayed. Every time I try to resync, Addressbook entries will be synced
> > > but calendar entries will not.
> >
> > That is really weird.  We've had people report this problem with earlier
> > versions of kpilot, but this is the first I've heard of it happening with
> > kpilot 4.9.0.
> >
> > > *One time kpilot crashed upon calendar sync, and I have included the
> > > backtrace with this email.  Otherwise, I never see an error.
> >
> > That's the first I've heard of that happening too.  Can you file a bug
> > report with this information please?
> >
> > > I have also
> > > included the kpilot-syslog.html with this email.  I noticed it has some
> > > weird information, like it can't detect the Device Model and stuff, and
> > > it lists PalmOS as 1.2 (it's not, it's 4.5 I believe).
> >
> > Yeah, I just looked at my kpilot-syslog.html file and it has the same
> > thing. I think it's a pilot-link problem.
> >
> > > I hope this feedback will help, even if I can't get it working.  I'm
> > > currently trying to get the SVN version working but for some cmake
> > > problems.  Hopefully I can provide debug info when/if I get that
> > > working.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > From: Martin Bernreuther <MartinBern@web.de>
> > > > To: kdepim-users@kde.org
> > > > Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:03:56 +0100
> > > > Subject: Re: [kdepim-users] kpilot still broken in 3.5.6?
> > > >
> > > > Am Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2007 schrieb Justin Nawrocki:
> > > > > Like many people I've been wondering why KPilot will suck all of my
> > > >
> > > > calendar
> > > >
> > > > > entries off of my PDA but then won't sync back to the PDA.  All the
> > > >
> > > > reading
> > > >
> > > > > I've been doing suggests "wait until 3.5.6."  Well, 3.5.6 is out
> > > > > and I'm still not able to sync my calendar back to my PDA.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm using SuSE 10.2 and just installed the newest KPilot rpm that
> > > > > was released a few days ago with kpilot 4.9.0 and pilot-link
> > > > > 0.12.1.
> > > >
> > > > Like many people, I'm using kpilot quite successfully...
> > > > I'm using OpenSUSE 10.2 with KPilot 4.9.0 (still a SVN version) and
> > > > pilot-link 0.12.1.
> > > >
> > > > > What can be done?
> > > >
> > > > Good question! Not much, I guess!
> > > > All the reading you've been done should suggest to give
> > > > a little bit more information.
> > > >
> > > > The reader of this eMail still isn't informed about
> > > > - which PDA you use (the problem might be specific to a PDA type and
> > > > maybe needs a special workaround)
> > > > - The connection type (USB, serial, Bluetooth, WLAN,...) should play
> > > > a role since the connection seems to work.
> > > > - Settings (if you chose "PDA to PC" the described behaviour is quite
> > > > normal, but this was presumably a hotsync or fastsync)
> > > > - More descriptive information about the error ("won't sync back" is
> > > > quite short)
> > > >  - Output, Error messages, log file content,...
> > > >  - Debug information from a debug enabled version is probably quite
> > > > useful!
> > > > -...
> > > > Even if there's no solution at the moment, the feed back should at
> > > > least draw an image about which combinations and functionalities are
> > > > critical... kpilot might still broken in 3.5.6, but it's also helpful
> > > > to find out what "broken" means exactly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > BTW, I'm synchronizing my Palm TX with a USB cable using the
> > > > "usb:" device setting and that works quite well. There's a (known)
> > > > problem with the kpilot GUI (freezing), but I usually don't use the
> > > > GUI! I didn't have problems here recently, but reading these emails
> > > > about people having
> > > > problems with it, I think that it might be a good idea, if kpilot
> > > > automatically
> > > > does a backup of the korganizer calendar file just before starting
> > > > the synchronization.
> > > > In this case, the calendar file seems not to be damaged though and
> > > > also the pilot calendar is OK.
> > > > But the nuisance here seems to be, that new KOrganizer entries are
> > > > not copied to the pilot during a hotsync?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >        Martin Bernreuther
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > _________________________________________
> > > > Martin Bernreuther      MartinBern@web.de
> >
> > --
> >
> > ,-----------------------------------------------------------------//
> >
> > | Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper :: Numbers 6:22-26
> >
> > `
> >
> > | All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
> > | in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is
> > | the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
> >
> > ,
> >
> > | bash$ :(){ :|:&};:
> >
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,-----------------------------------------------------------------//
| Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper ::  Numbers 6:22-26 
 `
 | All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker 
 | in the middle, and then thin again at the far end.  That is 
 | the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.  
 ,
| bash$ :(){ :|:&};:
`----------------------//
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