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List:       kdelibs-bugs
Subject:    [ksmserver] [Bug 338242] script-files don't work anymore in autostart-directory
From:       Martin Yrjölä <martin.yrjola () gmail ! com>
Date:       2014-09-10 14:39:34
Message-ID: bug-338242-90985-6lPXnDCSPx () http ! bugs ! kde ! org/
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338242

Martin Yrjölä <martin.yrjola@gmail.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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     Ever confirmed|0                           |1
          Component|general                     |general
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |ASSIGNED
           Assignee|sebas@kde.org               |martin.yrjola@gmail.com
            Product|plasmashell                 |ksmserver
   Target Milestone|1.0                         |---
            Version|master                      |unspecified

--- Comment #6 from Martin Yrjölä <martin.yrjola@gmail.com> ---
There was some discussion on #kde-devel about the issue. The
autostart-functionality should be moved to ksmserver.

15:41 <mschiff> which component of KDE SC should be doing autostart stuff?
15:43 <rdieter_work> mschiff: kdelibs (at least in v4, not sure where that is
included in kf5 yet)
15:43 <mschiff> I am asking for kf5 yes... I want to file a bug (executing a
script on startup does not work) but dont know which component to choose...
15:45 <rdieter_work> mschiff: mind sharing the associated .desktop file so I
can test/verify?
15:46 <mschiff> rdieter_work: no desktop file, a shell script. You can choose
to configure a) desktop files and b) a shell script there....
15:46 <rdieter_work> (and if you haven't tried yet, running
desktop-file-validate on it, isn't a bad idea)
15:46 <rdieter_work> ok, I only ever use the .desktop mechanism
15:47 <dfaure> mschiff: I want the autostart stuff to fully move to the
workspace (ksmserver)
15:47 <dfaure> there's still some code in kinit, but it makes no sense (IMHO)
for it to stay there
15:47 <rdieter_work> mschiff: I think the "script" thing is actually a hook in
startkde/start-plasma
15:47 <dfaure> there's a discussion on k-f-d+plasma about all this
15:48 <mschiff> rdieter_work: so a workaround for now would be to create and
use a .desktop file
15:48 <rdieter_work> e.g in kde-workspace-4.x, implemented as plopping
something into ~/.kde/env/ which is source'd by startkde on login
15:48 <mschiff> dfaure: Thanks. So its worth to wait a bit? I am using
master-branch here ...
15:50 <dfaure> mschiff: things don't get fixed magically, better contribute to
the discussion :)
15:50 <dfaure> (the discussion is a bit old now)
15:51 <mschiff> dfaure: were you referring to MLs or #channels?
15:51 <dfaure> MLs
15:52 <mschiff> ok, my problem is time right now. I am trying to report bugs as
good as I can, but have (currently) not the time to spend reasonable time into
contributing :-/
15:53 <dfaure> ok
15:53 <dfaure> well, I pushed the problem away from frameworks, so I don't
actually know the current status on the plasma side :-)
15:53 <mschiff> dfaure: if not too time consuming and if it helps I can
subscribe and ask for it though if it will help ;)
15:54 <mschiff> I see ok ;)
15:54 <mschiff> thx
16:24 <einar77_work> dfaure: no one is working on that, I actually wanted to,
but I wonder where the kinit stuff should end up into
16:24 <einar77_work> (the handling by ksmserver was quite crude)
16:24 <dfaure> I'd put everything into ksmserver, but I might not be uptodate
with workspace plans
16:25 <dfaure> to me it makes sense to put everything in the thing that starts
the session,
16:25 <dfaure> rather than daemons that get started also by standalone apps on
other desktops / OSes
16:25 <einar77_work> would it make sense to move the code from kinit (it's IMO
cleaner than what used to be there in ksmserver)?
16:26 <dfaure> yes
16:29 <yrjolam> dfaure, einar77_work: I have made a bug report about the issue
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338242
16:29 <bugbot> KDE bug 338242 in plasmashell (general) "script-files don't work
anymore in autostart-directory" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ] 
16:31 <yrjolam> There was even a crude patch to bring back scripts-support to
kinit. It's mentioned in the comments. Should be a good starting point for
bringing the scripts support back.
16:32 <yrjolam> I can volunteer on bringing the support back if someone points
me to where we should put the autostart-functionality.
16:33 <einar77_work> yrjolam: ksmserver
16:33 <einar77_work> aka in plasma-workspace/desktop (I don't remember which
atm)

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