From kde-zine  Thu Jul 12 19:09:49 2001
From: Darian Lanx <content () openprojects ! net>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:09:49 +0000
To: kde-zine
Subject: Re: [Kde-zine] in reply to Andreas
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> Yes, please do (privately).
done
>
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> I don't care what you do with the backend, that's your department.  If =
I
> store it in a database now you can retrieve the values easily.  I can
> send it to you in a CSV file or in whatever format you want, as long as
> the fields are separate in the database I can throw any separator
> between them you ask for.
Well, no need to do that. I can do that on Bero's machine. That is no=20
problem, but thank you for the offer.
>
> > We have about 20 days static data and then in the 10
> > days when we tag the new release and generate the html the data gets
> > moved. We decided it is faster and more secure to leave everything on=
 the
> > hard disk and do not put another "mediator" between data storage and
> > publishing "system".
>
> Well, I don't agree with your reasoning, but that doesn't matter, since
> it's your project.  Using a database does not slow the page down, unles=
s
> you use a stupid roll-your-own database like Zope does.  At kde.com, fo=
r
> example, the database is never the bottleneck, and we get quite fast
> times when accessing the mail database (which is about 200MB in size).
> The nice thing about a database is you can easily switch programming
> languages, backends, servers, split database from client, provide info
> in different formats, etc.
Well, a databse is always a bottle neck, especially when it comes to=20
databases not meant for high volume transaction like mysql for example.
I am not going to go into the low down explanation of the thecnical issue=
s, I=20
am sure you are well aware of them. Keeping static data within a File Sys=
tem=20
will always outrun any datanase at any time.
I do agree, that the data is not as flexible, that is why we would store =
it=20
in XML. in a way, xml with all its additional technologies is providing w=
hat=20
a dabase provides, jsut without the overhead.
>
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>
> We can dream, but I also don't think we should shut the zine down if we
> get only 2 articles.  Plus when you are online I don't know what you
> mean by publishing "monthly" -- don't the articles get released as soon
> as received?  The "hold until it's stale" approach makes sense only in
> printed issues, which we don't have yet.  Once we get 10 articles a
> month will maybe be the time to consider a printed version.
>
no. we are no news site. we do not do breaking news. We are not the cutti=
ng=20
edge of news. We publish articles. Like any print publication would. We a=
re=20
not going to replace the dot., The dot is for annoucements and breaking n=
ews.=20
We are for lenghty, into detail articles. if you read the zine mailing li=
sts=20
archive you might find that mentione dmore than once. I think i am more t=
han=20
in complicane with Herve in this point
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Well, i thank you for all the thought yu put into this. As I said. i am n=
o=20
longer watching over this, my work doe snot permit me to do that. but I w=
ill=20
set it up on beros machine, once this is all settled
-d
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Nisi Defectum Haud Reficindium
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