'Re: Creating a plan to action for the KDE web presence'

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Subject:    Re: Creating a plan to action for the KDE web presence
From:       Michael Howell <mhowell123 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2008-10-31 3:58:12
Message-ID: 200810302058.20373.mhowell123 () gmail ! com
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On Thursday 30 October 2008 20:35:48 Cornelius 
Schumacher wrote:
> (Sorry for the long mail, but we are going to tackle a 
humongous task ;-)
>
> Following up on the IRC meeting, and some of the 
discussions afterwards, I
> went through all web sites hosted under subdomains of 
kde.org domain and
> tried to create an overview and some ideas how we could 
approach a refresh
> of the overall KDE web presence.
>
> While doing this it became apparent to me that with 
techbase and userbase
> we actually have two sites which would fit very well to host 
a lot of the
> content which is now fragmented over an amazingly big 
number of mostly
> outdated sites. They also would perfectly address the 
demand to have the
> web content more easily editable by all community 
members, especially those
> who don't want to work with svn.
>
> There are also a couple of recurring elements which are 
used very
> frequently. These are:
> - Application presentations. We probably could win a lot, if 
we would have
> something like a standard info box for applications on 
userbase, together
> with a consistent way to integrate the usual info like general 
description,
> feature list, screenshots, links to other resources
> - News items. A lot of sites have news items, either 
manually maintained,
> through a somewhat tooled news feed, or by integrating 
news feeds from
> other sites. Maybe it would be worth to think about a 
central way to
> provide KDE related news, e.g. through the dot. We could 
tag items and have
> specialized feeds for the specialized sites. This might make 
it easier to
> have an easy and constantly updated source of news about 
KDE as a whole and
> individual groups as well.
> - Community and subcommunity info. We have a lot of sub 
communities which
> work as groups with their own identities within KDE. This is 
reflected in
> community info on various websites, e.g. lists of people, 
info about
> meetings, team-specific discussion areas, etc. We need to 
find a place for
> this kind of data.
> - A couple of subdomains just redirect to an external web 
site. It would be
> good to come up with a consistent set of rules how and 
when we do this.
> - We need a set of guidelines and rules what we allow on 
web sites under
> the kde.org domain in terms of licenses, advertisement, 
sponsoring, etc.
> The kde.org domain is owned by the KDE e.V. and their are 
certain legal
> obligations and responsibilities which come with that. This 
is somewhat
> independent of the refresh of the KDE web presence in 
terms of content and
> design, but it's still important to keep in mind. This issue 
will be
> addressed by the KDE e.V.
>
> So my general proposal would be to:
> - Move most of the content to userbase and techbase. This 
would make it
> easier to maintain, we could reuse common infrastructure 
and it would
> improve the quantity and quality of content on userbase 
and techbase. It
> would also take care of at least part of the translated 
content as you can
> already see on userbase.
> - Those teams who want to maintain an own site, because it 
fits better
> their workflow or helps them to keep their own identity, 
continue to do so.
> We are a large and diverse community, so their certainly is 
no single
> solution which fits everywhere. But of course we still should 
try to limit
> the amount of duplicated work, and offer common 
infrastructure where
> possible.
> - For the community-oriented content we currently have 
techbase/projects.
> This is probably mostly fine. But maybe we should think 
about a separate
> community wiki (communitybase.kde.org?). There are 
special needs for
> community content and it might help to keep things clean. 
That said, I
> think for now the techbase/projects solution also does the 
trick.
> - There are some ideas about more dynamic content, 
aggregation of community
> and sub-community content, etc. We don't have this yet, 
but of course it
> would be great to go into such a direction. I would make 
this part of a
> second step of the KDE web presence refresh. Once we 
have the existing
> content under control we can think more about fancy new 
ways to enhance the
> community experience. But it's something to keep in mind.
> - We certainly want to continue to use all or most of the 
subdomains we
> have. This means that we need some sort of landing page 
for them. This
> could be a dedicated userbase or techbase page for each 
domain, or it could
> be a separate system. It think we have to explore what the 
best solution is
> in terms of user experience and community needs. But 
again we should try to
> limit duplicated and additional work here.
> - The design of userbase and techbase has some 
limitations. Especially the
> fixed width layout is causing a couple of problems and is 
repelling some
> users and contributors, as it for example makes it hard to 
properly quote
> code examples. It would be good to come up with an 
updated version of the
> design, which takes into account the experience we have 
gained with it over
> the time. This would also stress that we are going to start a 
new phase of
> the KDE web presence
>
> After this long introduction and general thoughts now here 
is the list of
> individual subdomains and my comments on what they are 
and how we could
> proceed with them. Be gentle, if something is not accurate 
or there are
> different plans. It's over a hundred sites, so we will need a 
bit of time
> to get everything right.
>
>
> Central Sites
> =============
>
> http://www.kde.org
>
> - KDE home page
> - entry point for everything else
> - Capacity
>
> http://userbase.kde.org
>
> - Central user page
> - Mediawiki
> - keep as is
>
> http://techbase.kde.org
> http://devel-home.kde.org
> http://developer.kde.org
>
> - Technical information
> - Focused on developers of 3rd party apps and developers 
of KDE itself
> - keep as is
> - move all developer related content here
> - Mediawiki
>
> http://dot.kde.org
> http://news.kde.org
>
> - Maintained, in the process of being moved to Drupal
> - News entries moderated
> - User comments (would be good to have them community 
rated)
> - Source for news for all kind of other sites
>
>
> Community Sites
> ===============
>
> http://events.kde.org
> http://promo.kde.org
>
> - only useful content: event calendar
> - Capacity
>
> http://enterprise.kde.org
>
> - business directory (needs somebody driving it)
> - rest of content -> userbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://ev.kde.org
>
> - KDE e.V. Home
> - maintained
> - keep as is
> - Capacity
>
> http://wiki.kde.org
>
> - old and mostly obsolete wiki
> - Drop
> - redirect to userbase
>
> http://l10n.kde.org (Translators )
>
> - interface to translation statistics
> - maintained
> - keep as is
> - community content
> - Capacity
>
> http://appeal.kde.org
>
> - retrieve original content and keep it as a historic document
>
> http://spread.kde.org (Promotion )
>
> - undermaintained
> - some private pages
> - community content
>
> http://akademy2006.kde.org
> http://akademy2007.kde.org
> http://akademy2008.kde.org
> http://conference2004.kde.org
> http://conference2005.kde.org
> http://conference2006.kde.org
> http://conference2007.kde.org
> http://conference2008.kde.org
> http://www.conference2004.kde.org
> http://www.conference2005.kde.org
> http://www.conference2006.kde.org
> http://www.conference2007.kde.org
> http://www.conference2008.kde.org
>
> - Old Akademies
> - Keep as is as historical data
> - Capacity
>
> http://akademy.kde.org
>
> - Redirect to current Akademy
>
> http://camp.kde.org
>
> - Maintained
> - Keep as is
> - Camp KDE
>
> http://community.kde.org
>
> - Community working group
> - Drupal
> - community content
>
> http://discover.kde.org
>
> - Unfinished
> - Foucs on attracting new users
>
> http://people.kde.org
>
> - redirects to www.behindkde.org
> - community content
>
> http://worldwide.kde.org
>
> - special application
> - keep as is
> - Capacity
>
> http://forum.kde.org
>
> - Forum site
> - keep as is
>
> http://planet.kde.org
>
> - special application
> - keep as is
>
> http://radio.kde.org
>
> - podcasts and videos
> - keep as is
>
>
> Applications and Application Suites
> ===================================
>
> http://konsole.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://printing.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://games.kde.org
>
> - maintained
> - keep as is
> - could be moved to userbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://kooka.kde.org (Scanner Manager)
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://noatun.kde.org (Noatun Media Player)
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://multimedia.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://utils.kde.org (Utilities)
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://extragear.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://kbabel.kde.org (KBabel )
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://kdesvn-build.kde.org ( Build KDE from SVN Sources)
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://edu.kde.org (Educational Software )
>
> - maintained
> - keep as is
> - could be moved to userbase and techbase
> - community content
> - Capacity
>
> http://kpdf.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://amarok.kde.org
>
> - maintained
> - keep as is
>
> http://kopete.kde.org (Instant Messaging (Messenger, ICQ, 
Jabber...) )
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - community content
> - Capacity
>
> http://kmail.kde.org/
>
> - redirects to kontact.kde.org
>
> http://konqueror.kde.org (Web Browser )
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://akregator.kde.org
>
> - Move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://basket.kde.org
>
> - maintained
> - keep as is
>
> http://cervisia.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://dolphin.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://kaffeine.kde.org
>
> - maintained
> - keep as is
>
> http://kafka.kde.org
>
> - Redirects to kdewebdev.org
>
> http://katapult.kde.org
>
> - Move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://kate.kde.org
>
> - maintained
> - move to userbase and techbase?
> - Redirects to http://www.kate-editor.org/
> - Drupal
>
> http://kmobiletools
>
> -> kmboiletools.org
>
> http://kmplayer.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://koffice.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - community content
> - Capacity
>
> http://konsole.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://kontact.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://konversation.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://korganizer.kde.org
>
> - redirects to kontact.kde.org
>
> http://kst.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://okular.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://plasma.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://skylendar.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://yakuake.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://accessibility.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://kdevelop.kde.org
>
> - Maintained
> - Redirects to kdevelop.org
>
>
> Platform
> ========
>
> http://phonon.kde.org (KDE Sound System)
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://quality.kde.org
>
> - move to techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://usability.kde.org
>
> - move to techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://api.kde.org
>
> - special application
> - keep as is
>
> http://artist.kde.org
>
> - Site down
> - Create new on techbase
> - community content
>
> http://decibel.kde.org
>
> - move to techbase
>
> http://pim.kde.org
> http://kdepim.kde.org
>
> - Move to techbase
> - Community content
> - Capacity
>
> http://nepomuk.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://research.kde.org
>
> - redirects to techbase.kde.org/Research
>
> http://solid.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://windows.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - community content
>
> http://freebsd.kde.org (FreeBSD Packagers )
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://solaris.kde.org (Solaris Packagers )
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://women.kde.org (Women in KDE )
>
> - move to techbase
> - move interviews to people.kde.org
> - community content
> - Capacity
>
> http://mac.kde.org
>
> - move to userbase and techbase
>
> http://svg.kde.org
>
> - move to techbase
> - Capacity
>
>
> Translated and local sites
> ============================
>
> http://br.kde.org
> http://cat.kde.org
> http://czechia.kde.org
> http://de.kde.org
> http://es.kde.org
> http://fr.kde.org
> http://il.kde.org
> http://in.kde.org
> http://ir.kde.org
> http://is.kde.org
> http://jamaica.kde.org
> http://korea.kde.org
> http://kr.kde.org
> http://ro.kde.org
>
>
> Special Sites
> =============
>
> http://docs.kde.org (Searchable Software Documentation)
>
> - special app providing manuals online
> - keep as is for now
> - think again in context of KDE Documentation NG
>
> http://lxr.kde.org (Source Cross reference )
>
> - special appliaction
> - keep as is
>
> http://websvn.kde.org (WebSVN )
>
> - special application
> - keep as is
>
> http://bugs.kde.org (Bug Database )
>
> - special application
> - keep as is
>
> http://lists.kde.org (Mailing lists )
>
> - mailing list archive
> - drop it in favor of markmail.org?
>
> http://download.kde.org (Downloads )
>
> - move to userbase
> - Capacity
>
> http://commitfilter.kde.org
>
> - special application
> - keep as is
>
> http://groupware.kde.org
> http://kolab.kde.org
>
> - redirects to kolab.org
>
> http://mailman.kde.org
>
> - redirects to www.kde.org/mailinglists
>
> http://newstuff.kde.org
>
> - special service
> - move rest of content to userbase techbase
>
> http://survey.kde.org
>
> - Special application
> - keep as is
>
> http://themes.kde.org
>
> - redirects to kde-look.org
>
> http://wiki.akademy.kde.org
>
> - private wiki for akademy organization
> - keep as is

Looks great! It'd be good to see more uniformity come to the 
KDE sites.

-- 
Michael Howell
mhowell123@gmail.com

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