On Saturday 06 December 2003 18:51, Martin Konold wrote:

> You are aware of the fact that fm is not open source?

Yes, since I'm trying to negotiate with freshmeat I'm very aware of the 
situation, thanks. 

> In general I dont trust in VA Software. VA went far away from former OSS
> principles in recent history.

The worst thing that could happen if we switch to freshmeat is that we will 
again have the same situation that we have now. 

That means: 

a) a lot of people  who would like to do something, but don't actually do it
  or can't, or are just interested talking others into illusionary projects 
without actually getting their hands dirty. 

b) the full apps repository in the hands of a single person who can just
drop out of business or otherwise become unreachable (I still think that 
Andreas is just on holidays or business trip btw). 

Switching to fm is miles better because

a) its known, anybody interested can contribute

b) people actually do that

c) they offer us hosting, maintenance and bandwidth

d) we have (not yet sure how many) rights to take influence. 

Thats better to anything we can build up with our own, existing ressources. I 
know how many people write each day to howtohelp@kde.org with all their 
illusionary plans on how they put light into KDE and I also see how little 
comes out of it. So I'm not at all interested that now a lot of people pop up 
that would like to start their own kde apps repository as their pet project 
and will just silently disappear again whenever the things get serious. 

So unless there is serious activity in building up a repository on our own 
(other than "ok, lets ask andreas to give us the database and the scripts and 
we run it on some machine and then all is done and everybody is happy"), we 
should focus on what is feasible. 

maintaining such an app repository is a buttload of work and I don't see you 
or me putting much effort in it. freshmeat does that for years and has a lot 
of people around caring. 



Dirk
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