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List:       kde-user
Subject:    Re: kde control panel system sounds not workking (and critique
From:       Per Stuve Rommetveit <persr () online ! no>
Date:       1999-02-28 9:08:49
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On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Tim Robinson wrote:

[Sound problem]

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> THE REAL ISSUE

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> Being new, that means that to install new software, I get the file (*.rpm
> since I'm a Redhat user), and attempt to install and find I need libraries.

I just installed the newest release of KDE (ver 1.1) on my dell laptop, using
rpm's containing binaries from the norwegian kde ftp mirror nvg.unit.no:

ftp://ftp.nvg.unit.no/pub/linux/kde/stable/1.1/distribution/rpm/RedHat-5.2/i386/

I did not need any extra libraries to complete this installation, everything
that was needed was already installed with redhat 5.2.

>  (If I were a long-time linux user, I'd probably already have the necessary
> libraries, but you have to start somewhere.)  Then I install some other app

I am by no means a long-time linux user. :-)

> that needs older libraries.  If you try to put old libraries on top of new
> libraries, the installation doesn't go so well.  --force does the job, even
> if that's a bit extreme.  That step, however, produces what appears to be a

That is correct.

> normally running system... until you go to use sound under KDE and the new
> library has been replaced with an old one. <sigh>  Solution is easy enough:

What particular library is the one that caused the trouble her ? I am curious.

> do a forced re-install of the new libraries.  Poof!  I've got the sound I
> expected.  The clue for this solution came from an old friend who got into
> Linux programming several years ago while I was still busy producing NT
> server software.  He got asking me what I had been installing... after all,
> I DID state I was new to installing the software.  

Yes you did.

> He also suggested that I bypass most common newsgroups and mailing lists
> (such as this one) because he thought I was more likely to be led astray
> than helped... and help I might offer would be ignored.

To really learn the stuff, I agree it is best to read for yourself. Get all
available documentation, and learn by doing. That's how I do it. The reason I
participate on mailing-lists like this, and read usenet news is usually because
I want to know what others are doing, what problems are most common etc. And
sometimes I might learn something too - that is an added bonus.

> My other problem was odd-toolbars.  It seems many RPM files (and one must
> presume tar files) want to put files in /usr/bin instead of /opt/kde.  My

Since you are new to linux, you are probably not very familiar with rpm. I can
give you a couple of helpful hints.

If you issue a command like: 'rpm -qlp package-name.rpm', you will get a list
of all files in that rpm, and you will also see where they will be installed.
If you type 'rpm -qip package-name.rpm' on the command line, you'll get
information about that package.

There's a lot of more things you can do with rpm. Please read the manual page
('man rpm') to find out more.

> KDEDIR is set to /opt/kde so it's no real surprise it wasn't finding files
> installed to /usr.  I was half-way to solving the problem when I asked my
> question.  Why the solution didn't occur to people considerably less green
> than am I is bewildering to me.

Maybe... Installing KDE is really pretty straightforward, and I think the
instructions that comes with KDE are really good. But of course - someone will
always get some problems. :-D

> The last few days have been a roller-coaster ride in terms of computer use,
> so please forgive me for being testy.

Being a newbie in the linux world can be really frustrating in the beginning,
especially if you try to learn too much a once. ;-)

--
Per Stuve Rommetveit -- IT student @ DPH Bekkestua, Norway 
RMS: "GNU/Linux  because it's  the best  system available"
PSR: "LinuX is great, but it cannot beat love and passion"

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