From kde-usability Thu Aug 16 21:43:46 2001 From: Eric E Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:43:46 +0000 To: kde-usability Subject: Re: Kicker report X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-usability&m=99802221609455 Hi everyone, Sorry if I'm a late starter in this discussion, but I just read the kicker report. Most of the points I thought were very good. I definitely agree that the window-list arrow is a very confusing item, and needs to be disabled by default. However, I do like the ability to have it there - maybe it can be disabled by KPersonalizer? Also, I'd like to talk about this point ( 1-13) some more: >Remove the "Preference" menu item from the menu that appears when one right >clicks on the "grip" of an applet. Move it to the menu that appears when one >right clicks on the applet itself. While I agree that having to find the grip to configure the taskbar applet is confusing, I just wanted to be clear that we won't put that Preferences action a menu that appears when you click a Taskbar ENTRY. This seems more confusing to me - entries in that menu should all relate to the program that the entry represents. On the subject of the main menu - I generally agree that they need to be streamlined. I had my first look at XP, and there's almost nothing on the main menu. It's all been pushed off to submenus. On the subject of naming things, I think we need to veer away from logically categorizing things, like putting all office productivity apps into a category called "Office", and wait and be guided by how novices react to decide where those things should go. I'm using Mandrake 8.0, and the out-of-the-box setup of KDE is that to use xmodmap to set the windows key to F13, then map the main menu to F13. Works great, and I don't see why KDE couldn't do this, or why KPersonalizer couldn't help the user sort this out, depending on their keyboard. BTW, in all the KDE packages I've ever used, Alt-F1 is the default to pop the main menu. Thoughts? Cheers, Eric _______________________________________________ kde-usability mailing list kde-usability@mail.kde.org http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usability