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Subject:    Re: [KDE Usability] Review Request: kmix layout bugfixes and
From:       Aurélien Gâteau <agateau () kde ! org>
Date:       2010-01-10 21:54:05
Message-ID: 20100110215405.27441.1770 () localhost
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> On 2009-12-21 13:23:41, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote:
> > The realignment looks great. Do you know if there will be any issues with how the \
> > device strings will translate? Will the column expand or the label wrap? 
> > Mute toggle. Generally modal toggles that change like this can get confusing (is \
> > it on to turn on or on to turn off? then you add a level of complexity when the \
> > button actually changes). However, if an option is toggled to mute, can you also \
> > disable the slider? I think that will make the mute option make more sense \
> > immediately. 
> > Capture cannot be disabled?
> > 
> > Finally, the old mixer had ticks on the slider so you had a general idea of where \
> > the selection is. I don't think we need as many ticks as in the original, but at \
> > least 0/50/100.
> 
> Cyberbeat wrote:
> Thanks for you feedback.
> 
> a) yes, the alignment was the main thing, that I wanted to fix. As you see in the \
> screenshot the "mic boost" column wraps. Then all the sliders are aligned, as if \
> all columns had two label-lines (same thing for 1,2,3,4,.. lines). The code was \
> already there in kmix, but it did not work anymore with qt4 I think. 
> b) I really could not stand the checkbox with the mute-label. It also was an \
> alignment mess and clustered the gui. But if you look at most media-players, the \
> user should be familiar with mute-toggle-buttons. There are still issues with \
> "miss-use" of the mute-button, for example in the screenshot for mic-boost. But \
> this is a lower-level thing. 
> c) Capture can be toggled/selected by clicking on the LED on top.
> 
> d) sliders can still be configured in the kmix-settings.
> 
> I did not look much at the lower-level code of kmix until now. I think there is \
> also much room for improvement.

Second version looks nicer, but I am wondering why there is no icon below the pcm \
channel. Can't this channel be muted? I was expecting to see the muted icon below \
muted channels.


- Aurélien


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On 2010-01-10 20:34:17, Cyberbeat wrote:
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> (Updated 2010-01-10 20:34:17)
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> 
> Review request for usability and Helio Castro.
> 
> 
> Summary
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> 
> kmix layout was a mess. some layout-things simply did not work for qt-4 anymore.
> 
> This is not meant for commit yet, but as an idea and foundation to build upon:
> 
> - mixer-elements are correct vertically aligned and have equal width
> - no text for mute/record. still to decide if to use toggle-buttons or LEDs. I \
> experimented with both. There are cases where a mute-symbol does not fit the \
>                 meaning of the "mute"-control.
> - selection-elements on the right are now top-aligned
> 
> Perhaps someone has motivation to improve this further. Would be a pitty if this \
> rotts on my harddisk. kmix really still needs much work to make it usable. 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
> /branches/KDE/4.4/kdemultimedia/kmix/CMakeLists.txt 1072698 
> /branches/KDE/4.4/kdemultimedia/kmix/mdwenum.cpp 1072696 
> /branches/KDE/4.4/kdemultimedia/kmix/mdwslider.h 1072696 
> /branches/KDE/4.4/kdemultimedia/kmix/mdwslider.cpp 1072696 
> /branches/KDE/4.4/kdemultimedia/kmix/viewsliders.h 1072696 
> /branches/KDE/4.4/kdemultimedia/kmix/viewsliders.cpp 1072696 
> 
> Diff: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/2328/diff
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> works for me. love it much more than before.
> 
> 
> Screenshots
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> 
> Kmix after second diff
> http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/2328/s/282/
> Kmix old layout
> http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/2328/s/295/
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cyberbeat
> 
> 

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