You believe that we should provide defaults in an inconsistent manner throughout KDE because you don't believe we can provide consistency and that KDE developers are not interested in providing consistent, usable defaults for the end user. You are making a case for the tech savvy user and/or for educating users to configure their own systems. On the other hand, I believe that we should provide a consistent, usable experience throughout KDE that users can sit down to use because I believe we can provide consistent defaults and that most KDE developers want to achieve this. I am making a case for the user who isn't tech savvy and wants to configure as little as possible whilst allowing KDE users to configure their own systems as much as they want to. The reason why I have recapped is so you can see that this discussion will lead us nowhere. We each believe entirely different things and neither of us are likely to change our opinions in the near future. Furthermore, we are each guessing at the desires of KDE developers. I hope I have saved us from a long, pointless conversation. TeapotPhilosopher _______________________________________________ kde-usability mailing list kde-usability@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usability