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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Add F11 as full screen shortcut
From:       Peter <gostelow () global ! co ! za>
Date:       2009-06-03 18:07:37
Message-ID: 200906031807.40634.gostelow () global ! co ! za
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On Wednesday 03 June 2009 16:31, Maciej Pilichowski wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 June 2009 17:02:46 Peter wrote:
> > My point is, we can and should discuss defaults, shortcuts, and
> > preferences, but not with the intention to convince others that
> > specific keys must do specific actions.
>
> a) a few mails ago you wrote that defaults do not matter -- what is
> the point discussing defaults if they do not matter

There isn't any point, that is why I don't see why it is being discussed.

> b) what is the point of any discussion if not convincing others

To help solve useability problems, not change viewpoints.

>
> > > One question I have not seen in this tread is (I might have missed
> > > it): "Is F11 a _standard_ shortcut on any other  platform?"
> >
> > That is because it is irrelevant (...), defaults don't
> > have standards.
>
> And that is why such question is relevant. Otherwise we would look at
> ISO-XYZ standard.

We don't need default standards because the problem has been solved, let the 
developers define a default to make the app accessible and let the users 
change it, to make it useable. That works, right?

Regards,

Peter
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