On Wednesday 03 June 2009 12:32, Kåre Särs wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 June 2009, Maciej Pilichowski wrote:
> > On Wednesday 03 June 2009 13:17:46 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > > It seems the questions being discussed in this thread are:
> > >
> > > 1 what should be the default shortcut, ctrl-shift-F or F11
> > >  (ctrl-shift-F is currently often default so known to KDE users,
> > > F11 is used in Firefox and IE among others and 'easier')
> >
> > Errm, not really -- it is if we should _add_ F11 as a secondary
> > shortcut.
> >
> > > 3 if for two is decided to have F11 or ctrl-shift-F as global
> > > shortcut should there be a difference between those
> >
> > See above.
>
> One question I have not seen in this tread is (I might have missed it): "Is
> F11 a _standard_ shortcut on any other  platform?"

That is because defaults don't have standards. The thread was whether to _add_ 
a shortcut default to KDE's existing one which, afaik, KDE itself does not 
use.

My understanding of the oringal poster is adding default shortcuts to KDE will 
satisfy all users and apply to all apps. It can't and won't because defaults 
don't serve that purpose.

My point is, we can and should discuss defaults, shortcuts, and preferences, 
but not with the intention to convince others that specific keys must do 
specific actions. To improve useability, we need to rise above this, as hard 
as it might be.

Regards,

Peter
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