From kde-usability  Tue May 27 12:36:26 2008
From: "Peter Penz" <peter.penz () gmx ! at>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:36:26 +0000
To: kde-usability
Subject: Re: KUrlNavigator widget usability
Message-Id: <20080527123626.4650 () gmx ! net>
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Hi Aurélien,

[...]
> Telling the users to add the up-button to the toolbar is a solution, and
> it's possible to do so with Gwenview, but it would be quite inconsistent:
> every application using KUrlNavigator would have to provide a way to add
> an up button to provide a similar experience.

I agree, that's why I'm also interested in finding a good solution inside KUrlNavigator :-)

> > I don't like "Gtk+-way", as it removes the possibility to give the
> "place"
> > a custom short name (see also [1] for details).
> > 
> > I'd like to introduce another proposal based on your "Variant of Gtk+"
> > way: what about just letting the [<] button act as "up-button" instead
> of
> > directly expanding the breadcrumb to the whole path?
> [snip]
> 
> I prefer the Gtk+ way, but the solution you suggest would still be better
> with the current implementation IMO, so I am fine with it.

Great :-)
 
> > If possible I'd like to postpone the implementation to
> > KDE 4.2, as this is
> > no "bugfix" from my point of view and I still think we need a lot of
> > discussion with Aaron, Celeste etc. I'd also like to do some tests with
> > users first before adding such a button to the navigator.
> > 
> > Would this be OK for you?
> 
> Yes, I guess it's wise. I will suggest people to add the "up" button to
> the toolbar meanwhile :)

Thanks! This gives us some time providing a really good solution instead of rushing it out for 4.1.

I've added KUrlNavigator as next important point on my TODO-list for the 4.2 release cycle. I'll start with a prototype directly after we got 4.1 out of the door and will let you know as soon as I've something to play with and to do some user tests.

Bye,
Peter

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