From kde-usability Wed Oct 10 19:07:46 2007 From: "Hans Chen" Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:07:46 +0000 To: kde-usability Subject: Re: Some thoughts on toolbars in KDE Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-usability&m=119204334025963 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============0259441413==" --===============0259441413== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6582_127172.1192043266366" ------=_Part_6582_127172.1192043266366 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/10/07, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > > Why not just use a normal combo box instead of inventing something new? > (Especially as "consistency" is one of the rules of UI design...) I think it looks "cleaner" with this kind of widget; a normal combobox would look pretty bad with certain styles in the statusbar, I believe. On 10/10/07, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > > Actually, the old one is worse than your new design, so I would say it is > progress :) MW makes a point about using the old combo box, so maybe work > with that? Hehe thanks. To me, the arrow (next to the value; in my mockup it's a black triangle) indicates that it is something I can click (to show a list of something). When I hover the mouse over the arrow, the widget changes to a combobox (Under "Hover" in mockup), and I know I can click the text to edit it. But that's how I think, and I'm rather used to such widgets. > I think the goal here is to dress up the value in a way which > makes it look clickable or editable. Maybe add a border, change the > background, or add a mouse-over change (to the entire widget, not just the > text area) to imply this. Is there currently no unify way of doing this in KDE? And what do you mean with "the entire widget" - do you count the slider as well? ------=_Part_6582_127172.1192043266366 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/10/07, Matthew Woehlke <mw_triad@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
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> Why not just use a normal combo box instead of inventing something new?
> (Especially as "consistency" is one of the rules of UI design...)

I think it looks "cleaner" with this kind of widget; a normal combobox would look pretty bad with certain styles in the statusbar, I believe.

On 10/10/07, Celeste Lyn Paul < celeste@kde.org> wrote:
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> Actually, the old one is worse than your new design, so I would say it is
> progress :)  MW makes a point about using the old combo box, so maybe work
> with that?

Hehe thanks.

To me, the arrow (next to the value; in my mockup it's a black triangle) indicates that it is something I can click (to show a list of something). When I hover the mouse over the arrow, the widget changes to a combobox (Under "Hover" in mockup), and I know I can click the text to edit it.

But that's how I think, and I'm rather used to such widgets.

> I think the goal here is to dress up the value in a way which
> makes it look clickable or editable.  Maybe add a border, change the
> background, or add a mouse-over change (to the entire widget, not just the
> text area) to imply this.

Is there currently no unify way of doing this in KDE? And what do you mean with "the entire widget" - do you count the slider as well?
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