Hi I'd like to get your opinion in a few questions regarding KWin effects and their usability. First, the effects config. We now have "Desktop effects" config module from where the user can turn on compositing as well as toggle some common effects like shadows or improved window management (= Expose-like effect, desktop grid and improved alt-tab). This is quite complete IMHO, perhaps it could use a "Press ok to accept the changes, otherwise they'll be reverted in 15 seconds" dialog as when changing resolution. But we also have the "Window effects" config module that displays a list of all effects and lets the user toggle and configure them. Having both "Desktop effects" and "Window effects" is confusing IMHO, so we could either rename the latter (to what?) or somehow integrate it into desktop effects module (another tab?). What do you think? Second, effect shortcuts. We still don't display any info about effect shortcuts. I'm not sure how to do that. We could either add info about it to effect's description (Shows all desktops in grid when you press Ctrl+F8), but then the shortcuts wouldn't be changeable. Or we can make an options page for all effects that have shortcuts. Is that better? And, in case an effect already has a config page, I guess it's fine to just add the shortcut config option there. And in case the shortcuts will go to options pages of individual effects, should there be some kind of notice at the top of the list, e.g. "To see effect shortcuts, click Options for that effect"? Rivo _______________________________________________ kde-usability mailing list kde-usability@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usability