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Subject:    Re: [kde-artists] A case for go-{first/previous/next/last} oxygen
From:       Jarosław_Staniek <js () iidea ! pl>
Date:       2007-05-02 19:58:12
Message-ID: 200705022158.12852.js () iidea ! pl
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James Richard Tyrer wrote:

> Jarosław Staniek wrote:
>> Hello, I've prepared mocups that tells you all what's the potential
>> problem: Oxygen icons for go-first, go-last actions are too similar
>> to go-previous, go-next, respecially, when we use 16x16 sizes or just
>> larger resolutions.
>> 
>> That's because go-first, go-last use dot instead of a vertical line.
>> While I value innovaion related to the dot, the dot is quite small.
>> (that's why I CC'd this post to usability ML too)
>> 
>> Original KDE3/Kexi1.x icons: [1]
>> http://kexi-project.org/pics/icons/navigation/navigation_icons_original.png
>>  The problem with the dot: [2]
>> 
http://kexi-project.org/pics/icons/navigation/oxygen_navigation_icons_problem.png
>>  Even more viible problem when "flat" interface is used: [3]
>> 
http://kexi-project.org/pics/icons/navigation/oxygen_navigation_icons_problem2.png
>> 
> While I fully agree with you that a line would be better than a dot, I
> also note that with a larger dot and less artsy shading that the icons
> are viable at that size:
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~tyrerj/kde/oxygen_navigation_icons_problem2-0.png
> 
> although I still think they are a little small.
> 
> Are these 16x16 icons?  If so, I would make their content a little larger.

James,
The larger dot is not bad, although as I tried to explain, well-know VCR-like 
vertical lines would eliminate more problems than the dot. In particular, as 
lon as you have all the 4 icons together within the navigator, it's easy to 
guess what's the purpose of the 1st (.<) and 4th icon (>.). If you put icon 
like (>.) alone, it's harder to guess its purpose than (>|) 
(I also mentioned that very similar >* icon is used in other software as well 
for completely different purpose)

-- 
regards / pozdrawiam, Jaroslaw Staniek
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