--Boundary-00=_n1ilF1S+aRKYiMs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2006 09:19, schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: > On Friday 29 December 2006 14:48, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > > gadget. But I think you agree that the fact that some are missed should > > be communicated in a menu entry. > > no, actually, i don't agree with this =) > > why would i care *in the menu*. think of it as a conversation between two > people, call them gerry and larry. > > Gerry: "Hey, Larry, do you have a list of everyone in the family?" > Larry: "Yep, right here." > Gerry: "Could you send an email to all of them?" > Larry: "Sure, except for Uncle Barry because he doesn't have email." > > compare to: > > Gerry: "Hey, Larry, do you have a list of everyone in the family?" > Larry: "Yep, right here." > Gerry: "Can you tell me who does or doesn't have email addresses?" > Larry: "Uh, sure. Uncle Barry doesn't have one. Why?" > Gerry: "I want to email everyone. Could you do that for me?" > Larry: "Sure, except for Uncle Barry because he doesn't have email." Hm. The dialog with the system I see rather like this: Gerry: "Hey, Larry, I want you to help me doing something to all members of the family." Larry: "Alright. I can help with sending an email to all, except one (Uncle Barry), starting a video chat with all, except one (your sister), or start a chat conference with all." Gerry: "Hm, so I want you to start a chat conference for me." Yes, problem here is, that telling who exactly will be missed gets complicated if there are a lot. So doing it afterwards, like you propose, could make sense (for Simple Joe). But I personally would at least like to have a hint before that there is trouble ahead with a certain action. Something like in the attached screenshot. > in other words, it would seem much more natural to me if the computer told > me -after- i asked it to take an action if it couldn't do it for certain > individuals. personally, i'd expect this to happen with a passive popup (so > i don't have to click further) near my current locus of attention (e.g. > where the menu entry is/was). Hm, interesting idea. Where should this popup appear? But then, a user might not be pleased if a phone call is already set and only then she reads in the passive popup "Sorry, Aunt Lilly and Brother Joe aren't phoned.", or? > i can then decide if i do or don't want that action to occur. But a passive popup won't let you choose, or? A decision (on a question) would need a further answer. What do you have exactly in mind here? > chances are, i probably know that Uncle Barry doesn't have an email address > already anyways. Chances are. But so are chances, you don't remember, and then both Uncle Barry and you will be sorry to have him miss your birthday party, not? (okay, I don't know Uncle Barry ;) I mean, wouldn't it comply with the principle of least surprise to warn about the fact? At least in the usecase I have in mind, where you want to give an information to all in a list, it seems useful to me to see which action fits best for this purpose. Or? 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