mån 2006-11-27 klockan 19:27 +1000 skrev David Roberts: > > We are not building a system for total morons. A "Normal" user can easily > > learn that when I plug in my USB stick an icon appears on the desktop and > > that the files can be accessed by clicking the icon. This same user might > > not care that the URL says /media/MyUSB but it does not hinder him/her. If > > KDE only would show MyUSB in the URL and a non-KDE application would > > show /media/MyUSB, that would be really confusing. "Am I editing the same > > document?" > I agree, I don't see any real problem with the current system. Most "normal > users" don't even look at the location bar, so I don't even see why it's an > issue. You miss the point. Of course it isn't a problem mounting it at /mendia or whatever other place. As you say yourself, most users would probably not even look at the location bar. The problem is that the user can use the GUI to navigate to /media or even / by pressing the up arrow. (Should still be possible when showing hidden files). By being able to browse to media you lose the one to one relationship between whats on your physical USB stick and how it is displayed in the GUI. When I use MacOS-X there are no GUI way to navigate into geek territories such as /etc, /usr, /usr/bin, /lib, /dev,... and removable media shows up like small hard drive icons on the desktop when connected. I don't feel the least hindered by this. If hiding things that only is there for the sake of Unix isn't a problem on the Mac, why should it be a problem in KDE. If I want to change something in MacOS that is too geeky to have a normal GUI control, I do what I expect most powerusers would do, just fire up Terminal and do it in vi. It's much quicker than opening a GUI application such as kate. It even works well on a slow cell phone connection, and it have the advantage that I can document my why I made the change directly in the config file. We should not try to invent a poweruser that knows everything on how to set up a chrooted bind or something equally geeky by directly editing config files, and at the same time doesn't know how to handle a CLI based text editor or even how to start kate from the CLI. I very much doubt that this kind of users even exists. Moron users on the other hand, are quite frequent. Our normal users will be much more interested in easily finding their folder with invoices, drawings, pictures, music,... than going to /dev to find out what devices he might have each and every day. The less we show of unix related stuff, the easyer it will be for the user to find these real world kind of things. To make it simple for normal users, we need to use clear and unambigous metaphores. E.g. your file cabinet should never appear to be the same thing as your desktop, your trash can, This is why end points (as the were named earlier in this thread) are so important. Regards Uno Engborg _______________________________________________ kde-usability mailing list kde-usability@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usability