Hello, this is a request that can fit not only in the usability department but also in the accessibility: Try to run an app that makes use of tabs and a left-hand pane, e.g. Qt Assistant 4. You can focus the current window (then, not only Tab key works but also recently find-as-you-type search mode). The problem is that users can never get a hint where the focus is (main pane or the side pane). My proposal is to require (from app authors and from KDE Style creators) to show the focus by highlighting the current tab (with KDE Highlight color, currently blue) if it's focused, and highlight the KMainWindow's dock's header in the same way. I have the same problem in Kexi and cannot fix it without doing nonstandard hacks. Same with Qt Designer (it has more panes), KMail, KDevelop and many more apps. Without this improvement, applications are poorly accessibly by using only keyboard. Additinal thing is to define a shortcut (and probably show it in each pane with underscore), since many keyboard users detest using "switch to next pane" action. The details are for discussion (sorry if this is already adressed, but current implementation of KDELibs4 lack this, and maybe this is also Qt4 issue) Let's make this working early enough and make it clear for developers (in the HIGs) that there should be visible focus hint if the application is slitted into panes. -- regards / pozdrawiam, Jaroslaw Staniek Sponsored by OpenOffice Polska (http://www.openoffice.com.pl/en) to work on Kexi & KOffice: http://www.kexi-project.org, http://www.koffice.org KDE3 & KDE4 Libraries for MS Windows: http://kdelibs.com, http://www.kde.org _______________________________________________ kde-usability mailing list kde-usability@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usability