From kde-usability Wed Oct 11 09:09:56 2006 From: Marco Gusy Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:09:56 +0000 To: kde-usability Subject: Openusability about Kmail 1.7 Message-Id: <200610111109.57011.picander78 () yahoo ! it> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-usability&m=116055773627376 Hi, I subscribed to this list to hear your opinion after the changes made to kmail after the openusability report: http://www.openusability.org/reports/get_file.php?group_id=55&repid=43#search=%22kmail%20openusability%20%22mailing%20list%22%22 if the link does not work try to search on google "Suggestions KMail 1.7 Folder Properties" with quotes. I don't agree with what they say in many points: "2.1 Amount of settings - The first step is to reduce the amount of settings that a “normal” user is confronted with in the properties dialog. Issues that either require deep technical insight or that is relevant only in 1% of cases should be kept “out of sight”, but still accessible, or put to another place. Reducing (required) information to the relevant makes the user feel safer that he/she can control his /her actions (because he/she only must set what he/she understands)." I don't know if this is a new usability trend, but I think that's generally a bad idea. Usability, in my opinion, is not "try to hide advanced settings", but "put the features where someone seek them first". So break a "folder properties" in pieces and scatter them around the U.I. doesn't make sense to me. "Mailing List - The handling of mailing lists is a feature that perhaps 1% of users expect." I think many kde users are subscribed to at least one mailing list (i use kmail with 8 mailing lists), why should this nice feature treated as "too much uncommon to see?". I know it's a feature you should use only once, but the truth is kmail sometime lose folder settings (it shouldn't), se I have to use this feature more than I should. Now it's in the "Folder" menu, where there were only visualization settings (expand, collapse, threaded view, mark as read etc...), and making it heterogeneous (visualization settings + properties) -> disorienting. The expiry proerties, following this phylosophy, should be in folder menu, but it isn't. I only have in the popup menu when i rightclick on a folder. "The properties also was changed in quite a substantial way. One aim was to get rid of the tabs, and thus to reduce the amount of informatin." It's common to have Properties/Settings in tabbed view, why kmail shouldn't? I'm not an usability expert, and I tried to get used to this interface, but after a year ok kmail 1.8 i still browse the menu to find where the expiry/mailing list settings are, and that's annoying to me. I would like to know what other kmail users think, so I subscribed to this list trying to figure out where the ML properties were once again. ;-) Thanks Marco _______________________________________________ kde-usability mailing list kde-usability@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usability