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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: KSystemUpdate
From:       Johan De Messemaeker <johan.demessemaeker () telenet ! be>
Date:       2005-11-11 14:11:57
Message-ID: 200511111511.57532.johan.demessemaeker () telenet ! be
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On Friday 11 November 2005 14:31, Zak Jensen wrote:
> I would suggest investigating other avenues of retrieving updates
> before adding yet another "package management" system to the world of
> linux/bsd. I believe the best place to start would be with the
> Autopackage team, but you may also want to talk with the devs for
> YaST, Yum, and Apt. Another place one could branch from is
> KGetNewStuff.

The application is just a frontend to ensure a consistent interface over 
different package management systems (BSD ports, emerge, apt-get, RPM and 
soon windows). Nothing more. I'm not interested in reinventing the wheel 
here :)

There are already a zillion different frontends available for almost every 
package technology. This is not helpful to beginning users.

> One concern that I have for your project overall is that users don't
> generally like it when their computers start doing things on their
> own... particularly the type who perfer linux, and expecially when it
> is sending "information" to the Internet. I highly recommend
> investigating how to make this an optional affair, so that all
> outbound updating activities could be disabled from 1 common location.
> (Maybe on an app-by-app basis, but that might make it too
> complicated.)

That's _exactly_ why I'm interested in this kind of application. KSystemUpdate 
(it's a cheesy name isn't it :P) _won't_ install anything automatically: all 
it does is check some servers for various upgrade information and then show 
that information in a consistent, clear and easy-to-use manner. From there, 
users can upgrade the parts they like.

Additional (advanced ?) options are possible ofcourse: it would be nice to be 
able to eg schedule stuff (eg: upgrade these applications within 3 hours). 

Regards, Johan

PS: that's quite the example you mentioned: YaST. Since KDE is getting a major 
rewrite for KDE 4.0, and so is KControl, wouldn't it be beneficial for the 
KDE project to have a YaST like program ? Since KDE is already cross-platform 
(and soon available on another major platform) it would be great to have an 
build-in KDE abstraction over OS/server/client configuration. That should be 
a feature for a cross-platform desktop IMO.
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