From kde-usability  Fri Nov 11 13:31:32 2005
From: Zak Jensen <coolguyzak () gmail ! com>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:31:32 +0000
To: kde-usability
Subject: Re: KSystemUpdate
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I would suggest investigating other avenues of retrieving updates
before adding yet another "package management" system to the world of
linux/bsd. I believe the best place to start would be with the
Autopackage team, but you may also want to talk with the devs for
YaST, Yum, and Apt. Another place one could branch from is
KGetNewStuff.

One concern that I have for your project overall is that users don't
generally like it when their computers start doing things on their
own... particularly the type who perfer linux, and expecially when it
is sending "information" to the Internet. I highly recommend
investigating how to make this an optional affair, so that all
outbound updating activities could be disabled from 1 common location.
(Maybe on an app-by-app basis, but that might make it too
complicated.)

On 11/11/05, Johan De Messemaeker <johan.demessemaeker@telenet.be> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried to boot XP on my dual-boot machine yesterday. I was amazed to notice
> that after the login I had to wait for quite some time to have a workable,
> 'snappy' system (a few minutes but it seemed a lot longer :P). In that time,
> multiple programs tried to connect to the net and check for updates and such:
> firewall, antivirus, utilities here and there. The fact that I haven't used
> the XP system for a few weeks probably made it worse (MORE checks).
>
> I figure that it will become only a matter of time until similar problems
> exist on the KDE platform. Yes, I am hopefull and I really do believe that
> commercial programs will become available en masse for the KDE platform after
> the transition to KDE 4.0 will be made :)
>
> I would like to know how the list feels about a KSystemUpdate utility. This
> utility should provide a consistent and simple frontend that will be able to
> update various parts of the system by the click of a mousebutton. Naturally,
> it is the responsibility of the various distributions to implement the actual
> backend. A commercial program should be able to register itself to the
> utility in some way wich should provide enough information to the utility to
> present the user with a proper and simple upgrade dialog.
>
> For example: I'm writing this now on FreeBSD 6.0/KDE 3.4.3. A simple 'Check
> for updates' should be able to tell me if updates are available through ports
> or cvsup (kernel, system). I should be able to simply select the parts I
> would like to update and a few mouseclicks and some time later I should have
> an updated system.
>
> I do acknowledge that some things won't be this easy as they require some
> serious interaction (FreeBSD mergemaster(8) for example) but for most users
> and configurations, this would be sufficient.
>
> Opinions, thoughts ?
>
> Regards, Johan
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