From kde-usability Wed Sep 07 17:29:00 2005 From: Zak Jensen Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:29:00 +0000 To: kde-usability Subject: Re: Tip of the day Message-Id: <21bb44f3050907102947a7df94 () mail ! gmail ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-usability&m=112611417629919 On 9/7/05, Harijs Buss wrote: > Well, now it sounds much better ;-) Thanks for explaining. Now I start to > understand your idea better. Maybe... if you would call things in easy > understandable names ("Learning" instead of "usability logging", etc.) Sorry about that. However, I prefer to avoid euphamism whenever possible. Usability logging was actually a separate aspect of the system--an additional piece of functionality that it could be used in as well. The logging portion would use the same API/hooks/libraries, but would send information concerning how people use KDE back to the developers. Of course, this could be controversial, and as such would be purely optional. (But, you have to admit, useful). Now that I think about it, it might even be useful for state-tracking... if a developer is trying to figure out what caused a bug, they could ask the original reporter to "enable usability logging", and then it would do the same thing. > AND if > this thing would not scream and jump on me gesticulating annoyingly each > several seconds, Heavens no. Even thinking about that makes me cringe ;) > AND if it will be easy to switch it off (and later maybe on) > - it might be worth to try. See my original post. > What about KDE Kicker Applet, something like very > useful Dictionary applet now? Let me know when Beta version will be > available ;-) Once again, see my original post. ;) Every time I talk about this idea, the privacy thing rears its ugly head... and likewise with the "OH GOD NOT CLIPPY" stuff... which was why I included the original conversation in my post. As soon as people understand the idea, though... they usually come around ;) I'm not sure if I will actually implement it. I'll have very little time available to me once school starts back up. So, if my team doesn't share my enthusiasm, I won't have the time to accomplish it. I'll give it my all, though. :D Also, it's nice to know that I already have folks interested in helping out with it. Will make it much easier to sell the idea to the rest of the team (and probably a professor or two ;) Cheers, Zak Jensen > Harry > > P.S. Such thing maybe could be later integrated with some kind of > context-aware guided interactive learning tool as one of options. That might > be nice and very useful thing indeed. That's starting to sound a bit like clippy again. (I understand entirely, but have to get in a snappy remark every once and a while... it's my nature ;) The possibilities for such a device seem innumerable. :D > On Wednesday 07 September 2005 19:40, Zak Jensen rakstija: > > On 9/7/05, Harijs Buss wrote: > > > On Wednesday 07 September 2005 16:19, Zak Jensen rakstija: > > > > The basic concept is to create an agent/daemon that tracks what the > > > > user does, and offers tips that are relevent to that activity > > > > > > M$ tried exactly such thing in one of Office releases (don't remember how > > > was this "talking paper clip" called). This feature was universally > > > claimed by majority of users as absolutely most annoying thing M$ has > > > ever made, and excluded from following versions of MS Office. > > > > > > People usually do not like idea of being watched and mentored all the > > > time. > > > > From what I have heard (and experienced) the troubling aspect for most > > people was not that it monitored what you were doing. It was, instead, > > that it wasy very "in your face" about what it would do. The agent > > would pop up and constantly offer its services to you. When it was > > displayed, it would animate itself, which would distract users from > > what they were doing. It had disturbing sound effects. And, possibly > > the worst aspect of the whole thing, was very difficult to turn off. > > It was fist available (I believe) in Office 2000. It may still be in > > office now. > > > > My idea is much less intrusive. It would only monitor your activities > > when either: > > A) You had "usability logging" enabled, or > > B) When the "KTips plasmoid" was displayed on the screen. > > In all other circumstances, the agent would not be active, or even > > loaded into the screen. > > > > In addition, it would not display an annoying animated agent. The > > whole concept rests on the foundation of the agent being within a > > passive plasmoid. If a user doesn't want the tips, they can close the > > plasmoid. If enabled, the plasmoid would be largely inert. It might > > update once every 5-10 minutes, wouldn't scroll, and wouldn't utilize > > dialogs or pop ups to communicate with the user. > > > > Another key function of this is it provides "tips". It monitors user > > activity over a long period of time, and adjusts the tips displayed > > based on that activity. It doesn't have the "it looks like you are > > making a letter" functionality. > > > > > Maybe would be worth to make such feature as special "learning option". > > > But God save Linux if this would become the default. > > > > That is what I intended it for. It doesn't aid the user at every turn. > > The premise behind the whole thing was making KTips more applicable & > > less annoying. > > > > > Harry > _______________________________________________ kde-usability mailing list kde-usability@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usability