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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: RFC: Restricting mouse in popup menus
From:       Lubos Lunak <l.lunak () suse ! cz>
Date:       2005-05-19 11:36:38
Message-ID: 200505191336.38880.l.lunak () suse ! cz
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On Wednesday 18 of May 2005 18:36, Thomas Zander wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 May 2005 16:52, Lubos Lunak wrote:
> > > i'm not sure what problem this is supposed to fix for the  
> > > normal user.
> >
> >  The same that the standalone menubar at the top of the screen tries to
> > fix? Something to do with Fitts' Law I think. And, mind you, just like
> > the mac-style menubar is not enabled by default, despite generally agreed
> > upon to be better, this doesn't need to be either.
>
> I try the Mac-style menubar every couple of months and always its either
> completely broken or simply unusable due to other features not working
> together with it.

 Other features like what? Focus follows mouse? I thought everybody using that 
knew it has some principal issues.

> Not to be harsh; but quite fundamental changes in usage 
> need a lot of maintenance in out rapidly evolving desktop environment.
> Are you going to use this feature quite often?  If not then how are we
> going to be sure it still works, and is usefull in 6 months time..

 I started using the standalone menubar about 3 years ago and I have kept 
using it since then, according to CVS log for kmenubar.cpp (yes, it got 
broken at times, and I had to fix it if I wanted to use it). Guessing from 
the number of people asking for the ability to add applets to it and similar, 
I'm probably not the only one using it.

 Isn't this like with everything else in KDE? Either it's used and somebody 
will take care of it, or not, and then this doesn't matter.

>
> That said; I still have to try the patch and see what it feels like. So
> don't immidiately take this as a negative reply, but just a concern of
> mine. More features is not always bad; I'm a bit concerned about the
> tradeoff on feature-maintenance v.s. usufullness.

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Lubos Lunak
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