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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Cardsortinig KMenu (was:Re: [another PATCH]: Kicker find as you
From:       Jan Muehlig <jan.muehlig () relevantive ! de>
Date:       2005-05-05 11:05:18
Message-ID: 4279FDEE.5080102 () relevantive ! de
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Card Sorting is an excellent tool to find out how users structure data. 
But if we do a card sorting with the members of this list (or other 
KDE-lists), we will get the opinion of kde-savvy users only. This will 
make KDE better for the members of this list, but not for normal users. 
Therefore: If card sorting, then take normal users (we can define this).

jan



seele@obso1337.org wrote:
> there are also webbased card sorts where the admin sets up the sort and
> users log in and do the sorting.  NIST actually has a card sort called
> WebCAT (http://zing.ncsl.nist.gov/WebTools/WebCAT/overview.html) that uses
> a java applet.
> 
> it seems as if a card sort would be a beneficial endevour.  are there any
> comments as to what kind should be performed? (fixed categories or user
> added categories)
> 
> 
>>seele@obso1337.org wrote:
>>
>>
>>>mozdev has a crossplatform card sorting tool we can use:
>>>http://uzilla.mozdev.org/cardsort.html
>>>
>>>i havnt personally used this before, but it is the best referenced cross
>>>platform cardsort app.
>>
>>I have personally used it before (plus a lot of the other card sorting
>>programs out there). Back then, it must have been 6 months or so ago, it
>>was pretty difficult to install. I have just tried it again and it
>>failed to download some needed extension. From my quick experience it's
>>unusable in its current state. So sticking to cardsort would in my
>>opinion be a very bad choice.
>>
>>I'd go for http://cardsword.sf.net It looks promising and doesn't depend
>>on Mozilla as a browser since it's written in Java. I got it to work on
>>both Mac OSX and Linux without any problems and suppose it should be the
>>same with Windows.
>>
>>Nevertheless most card sorting programs in my opinion have one problem
>>in common: they still need too much interaction from the user. They ask
>>users to download the software, run it, in the end probably even mail
>>the results to the card sorting administrator. That's too much for a
>>rather strenuous task people do not profit from at once. That's why a
>>card sorting tool should be web based, easy to use, and request from the
>>user as little interaction beyond the actual sorting as possible.
>>
>>Florian
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