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Subject:    Re: [another PATCH]: Kicker find as you type
From:       seele () obso1337 ! org
Date:       2005-05-03 15:11:13
Message-ID: 59689.209.116.240.11.1115133073.squirrel () webmail ! halcyonhosting ! net
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This looks like a viable possibility, but I still think (as I agree with
Tom Karasek) that maybe we should start closer to the root of the problem
and look at how the menus and fix the problem from the beginning instead
of coming up with an elaborate bandaid.

> Hi,
>
> Am Tuesday, 3. May 2005 16:45 schrieb Tom Karasek:
>> hi,
>>
>> well - *searching* a menu for it's contents only shows that there is a
>> problem with the menu in general: the lack of organisation and the
>> crowdedness (uh, does this word really exist?) - but this is solved in
>> well
>> organised kde-centric distributions like mandrake.
>>
>> also, this feature *will* be difficult to use, since you (a) have to be
>> careful not to click outside of the k-menu (otherwise it will close
>> itself), (b) you introduce a mix of menu (k-menu) and textarea (for
>> searching).
>>
>> however, i agree that there is a need to find applications sometimes. my
>> quick ideas: (a) provide a kio-slave (e.g. app: "word") inside
>> konqueror.
>> (b) insert an entry inside the context menu of the k-menu (e.g.
>> something
>> like "search for applications...") or inside the k-menu itself (e.g.
>> beneath "run command..."). this would open a separate window (e.g. a
>> special
>> konqueror-profile) and could provide the feature of saving searches.
>> (c) wait until there is some beagle or spotlight-tool for KDE where
>> searching for applications could easily be integrated... ;-)
> (b) This would be like my first suggestion, won't it?
> See:
> http://krename.sourceforge.net/screenshots/kicker_01.png
>
>> disadvantages:
>>
>> (a) ordinary users mostly don't use kio-slaves. it's  a shame, because
>> just
>> typing audiocd:/ and copying virtual MP3s is such a magical thing... ;-)
> I agree, kio-slaves are just not enough visible to the user (compared to
> kicker :) ).
>
>> (b) this would add another entry to the k-menu / it's context menu.
> One more item is a small price if it increases useability for many users.
> And
> if you do not like it you could simply disable it in kickers preferences.
>
> CU Dom
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