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On March 30, 2005 18:25, Diego Moya wrote:
> > That's your opinion. I find the current way where the menu action says
> > what's going to happen easier.
>
> Are you sure the menu says what's going to happen?

yes, because we try and maintain a consistent interface where the menu entr=
ies=20
represent actions: they tell you what they are going to do.

> How do you know=20
> whether the menu is showing the current state?

menu entries are actions, they shouldn't be used to indicate state. anyone =
who=20
become confused when reading a verb-based entry such as "Hide Foo" has=20
serious issues.

(btw, i really am not a huge fan of the Settings -> Toolbars menu because i=
t's=20
state versus verb based.)

> This is a frequent problem arising in buttons (and menu entries *are*
> a kind of button).  A button that change its label according to state
> is always a bad idea, because there is no way to tell whether the
> label shows current state or pressing the button will change the state
> to the one in the label.

good thing we aren't talking about buttons then, but menu entries which are=
=20
inherently actions and use verbs to describe what they are doing.

we obviously use checkboxes in dialogs/windows for these situations because=
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they make sense. (one more reason i find toolbars iffy: toggle buttons are =
so=20
common with them)

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Aaron J. Seigo
Society is Geometric

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