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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Usability study of KPrinter
From:       Gérard_Delafond <gerard () delafond ! org>
Date:       2005-03-28 20:21:35
Message-ID: 200503282021.35264.gerard () delafond ! org
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Le Lundi 28 Mars 2005 15:07, Joerg Hoh a écrit :
> Hi all
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 10:00:44AM +0000, Gérard Delafond wrote:
> > -Before printing, there is no summary of what settings have been chosen.
> > Perhaps these options should be displayed as a tooltip on "Print" button.
> > I mean basic settings like Color / BW, format, number of copies,
> > Landscape / Portrait, which pages, should be visible before printing,
> > etc.
>
> A tooltip isn't the best idea ... 
I agree. It's only an idea not to clutter the pane.

> But we need definitly an overview, how a 
> printed sheet looks like. Not necessarily a preview.
>
> > -Filter button has no obvious use, and should be hidden
>
> Filter? Don't see that button in my KDE 3.4. You're speaking of the button
> with the tooltip "Toggle selective view on printer list"? (You note I
> cannot reference to its icon, because I don't know what it should be.)
It's this one.
I still do not understand for which purpose it can be useful.

>
> > -Add printer is not an every day operation, and should not be on the main
> > window as well. The icon (a magic wand) is not enough to suggest what
> > action it performs.
>
> That's definitely true.
>
> > -The Preview check box should be a button. There is no need to perform 2
> > actions (checking the checkbox, then clicking on Print to preview
> > something. It is confusing to click on "Print" to preview. More simple to
> > click on a "Preview" button only.
>
> Hm, just noticed, that if I start kprinter as a separate programm there
> isn't such a checkbox ... If I use kprinter via "File, Print..." in kpdf
> there is this preview checkbox. Strange thing.
Perhaps beacause when you launch kprinter alone, there is nothing to preview ?

>
> > -There are too many places to make settings :
> > * an Options button to show the bottom of the pane
> > * a Properties button to make user settings (colors, margins, landscape)
> > * a System Options button
> > Why not more grouping ?
>
> This "dialog" is overcrowded.
> - Settings for this print job ("Properties"-Button)
> - Options-Button (to expand the window and show more settings affecting
>   this print job
> - the "System Options" button
>
> Speaking of the "Properties"-Button: The buttons of the opening window
> ("Configuration of ... - kprinter") has 3 buttons. What's the difference
> between "Save" and "ok"?
OK makes the job, but the next printing will use the previous settings, and 
Save will save the setting for the next operation.
Perhaps it should be more clear OK does not save the settings.
I think this should be addet to the wish report.
>
> > -There is no Bug report button
>
> Starting kprinter as a single application I noticed the following:
>
> - It looks like a dialog.
> - kprinter doesn't have a decent application icon.
I did not find it. where is it ??
> - I'm missing menus.
A menubar could unclutter the dialog : Quit, Help, Settings, etc.
> - The "files" tab is highly inconsistent:
Which one ?
>   * double clicking an entry doesn't have an effect
>   * the heading of that list has a confusing tool-tip
>   * what's the difference between the "add file" and "open file" buttons on
>     the right?
>   * the entries doesn't have a context menu (only the "what's this" item)
>
> > At this moment, printing with KPrinter is very surprising, and needs much
> > skill, which is a pity, since all the functions are here.
> >
> > If people don't disagreee, i'll fill a wish on bugs.kde.org.
>
> Strong ack. kprinter is a great application, I love to use it, but
> sometimes it's really confusing ...
Happy not to be alone.
>
> Jörg
Gerard
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