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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Allow money donations for precise bugs
From:       "Fred P." <fprog26 () hotmail ! com>
Date:       2005-03-15 22:13:26
Message-ID: BAY104-F3318D66438D6254364DF71A7570 () phx ! gbl
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>>- It's more important to have developpers than users.
>>   [KDE can evolve with developpers, but can't without them]

>Which is wrong.. KDE can not evolve without users. developers don't fall 
>from the sky.. they're users first, and they're dissatisfied with something 
>but still like the concept, so they start modifying things. Thats how 
>opensource works.

Okay, let me refine this a little bit:

Developpers are end users themselves of course, since developpers eat their 
own food, hopefully!
End users are those who "do not know programming or contribute to KDE 
directly.. yet!"
via code, translation, documentation, help, testing, etc.

However, like I said earlier, developpers can always please end users,
especially if it fix one of their own itches.

I don't think that currently, KDE are scaring end users... or KDE wish to 
scare any end users.

I personally think that KDE is one of the most friendly FOSS community
and that it should remain as such, especially towards *newbies*. =)
Especially, with projects like KDE University: 
http://www.fruitsalad.org/uofkde/

Still, it would be *REALLY NICE*, if developpers could please end users more 
than currently.
I think everybody will agree with that.
I don't think anyone wants to provide an unpleasant experience to end users
on purpose or by mistake.

I also think that projects like Usability and Accessibility are already a 
good step forward.
The proposal to include a full-blown usability review inside the next "KDE 
release schedule"
just before the "string freeze"... would be in my mind a Very Good Thing To 
Do !

Of course, I agree with you that any developpers unless appealed
by KDE libs code quality or challenge, where end users themselves first 
before being developpers?


Shall we make a www.kde-apps.org survey on this? =)

- I'm just a KDE user
- I'm not currently a KDE user.
- I was a KDE user before being a KDE developper
- I was a KDE developper before being a KDE user
- I'm a KDE developper that do not use KDE.
- What the heck is KDE?


Finally, the KDE bounties page was renamed to follow the Wiki standard so 
it's for now on located here:
http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE+Bounties

So, for all those that wish to introduce this bounties thingy, please 
populate that wiki webpage.

Enjoy!

Fred.


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