From kde-usability Sat Mar 12 02:09:48 2005 From: Aaron Seigo Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 02:09:48 +0000 To: kde-usability Subject: Re: What is obvious?; Context sensitive sidebars. Message-Id: <200503111909.53967.aseigo () kde ! org> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-usability&m=111059344215890 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============0335216936==" --===============0335216936== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1854547.JldZm0e3X6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart1854547.JldZm0e3X6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On March 11, 2005 18:35, Sven Burmeister wrote: > Let me start with an example: Do you think the K at the bottom-left of the > desktop is obvious in regards to it containing applications? To me it is. > Yet actually it is not.=20 didn't we just finish discussing how it isn't intuitive for new users? perh= aps=20 you could refer to that thread... here's an interesting set of factoids about kicker: nearly every first time user needs to be told about the applications menu there are a half dozen or so configuration options that "tweakers" often a= sk=20 about, but nobody else cares about there are rarely any questions on how to use kicker for an application with as many features as kicker has, including its=20 suboptimal configuration system, this is rather remarkable. > would it be useful to write a dot.kde.org article about this hm. i don't think so. if everybody who had an idea posted an article on the= Dot=20 looking for developers to implement that idea we'd be inundated with articl= es=20 that wouldn't end up leading anywhere. now... find a developer or two and g= et=20 something going, that'd be different. otherwise, i think on the wiki and here is a good place to deal with such=20 things. > http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=3DKDE+Context-Sidebar this totally fails on lower resolution screens and does not look particular= ly=20 more useful. the toolbar seems to have been usurped for a very complex side= =20 bar. btw, apple these type of "attached but external sidebar" things in=20 mail.app and it fell on its face. i also think it's largely a solution looking for a problem. kmail's compose= r=20 (shown in your screenshot) really doesn't present huge issues for the user.= =20 what would the sidebar provide, really? a context sensitive sidebar in konqueror might be a good idea. personally, = i'd=20 prefer a context sensitive drag zone in konqueror that is always visible an= d=20 which complements a sidebar.=20 =2D-=20 Aaron J. Seigo Society is Geometric --nextPart1854547.JldZm0e3X6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBCMk9x1rcusafx20MRAp6eAJ0UvLC9hr/NMaLGCLLM8pjWGcSU/gCbBn8D zdENExvoD0bIYwgtxIEv0i4= =Ln+a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1854547.JldZm0e3X6-- --===============0335216936== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ kde-usability mailing list kde-usability@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usability --===============0335216936==--